the battle royalification of games is annoying for sure, but saying it started with fortnite is giving epic games wayyyy too much credit.

fortnite just ripped the entirety of PUBG but with cartoon graphics and worse shooting mechanics. and even PUBG was just taking the lead of minecraft hunger games which was popular YEARS before either PUBG or fortnite were around

except minecraft hunger games was good actually. it was fun and it was just a single game mode that some minecraft servers implemented, not the whole game. there are a ton of server minigames that creative minecraft community members come up with, hunger games just happened to capture everyone's attention the most, and then devs noticed and decided to capitalize with stuff like PUBG

  • Hoyt [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    uhm actually PUBG grew out of ARMA 2 modding community not minecraft lol sorry sweatie

    • scarletdevil [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      I'm still upset that EPIC cancelled the Unreal Tournament remake years ago. It was soooo gooood, it was the only game I was playing at the time :(

      • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        They also pulled the plug on Paragon and I loved that game. They were fucking terrible at balancing characters though, remember a new patch coming out and the dinosaur one shotting me with a regular ability.

    • macabrett
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      2 years ago

      tell 'em, neighbor

  • buh [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    They’re all Doom clones :very-smart:

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Member when Fortnite had a single player mode? Actually it might still have one - I just brought it up because Fortnite went through a lot of iteration to get to the form it's in now, but frankly the PUBG devs were never in a position to do what Fornite eventually managed to do, since they didn't have the number of devs or the clarity of vision to turn their game into a lucrative live service that tapped into younger kids.

    Anyway if Fortnite gets credit for anything, it's doing a Metaverse while monetizing it better than Facebook has managed to do with billions of dollars, lmao (of course the best Metaverse is still VRChat - I will never pay for a skin!)

  • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Fortnite pretty much just came at the perfect moment: PUBG was getting popular but was a paid game, while fortnite was free so anyone who wanted to try the genre flocked to it and stayed. I think there were already a bunch of other live service battle royales in production at the time too (like Apex Legends had to have been in production already), epic just lucked out with having a very versatile base game already nearing completion (fortnite was originally a sort of tower-defense game with player building, sort of like Sanctum) that happened to be able to be quickly adapted to the genre. I almost wonder how it went down internally, if it was just some stress test of the netcode that made them realize they could scale it up to a battle royale without any problems or what.

    • Mindfury [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Epic nailed it by the grace of having a failing co-op PVE game already made that wasn't a resource hog.

      I cannot stress enough how fucking terribly PUBG ran at the time, considering how fuck-ugly it looked

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        a failing co-op PVE game already made

        I'm pretty sure it was still in alpha at the time, and its biggest problems were the dogshit gacha progression that the battle royale kept on. I don't think it was ever actually finished and released properly, just quietly abandoned after the beta of the battle royale took off and epic springboarded off that into having their own storefront.

  • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I’m pretty sure fortnite started out as like a shitty co-op horde mode shooter or something lol. It was a bomb before it changed to being battle Royale

    • redthebaron [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      it did, the building stuff was meant for base building and stuff and is a holdover from back then

  • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    fortnite just ripped the entirety of PUBG but with cartoon graphics and worse shooting mechanics. and even PUBG was just taking the lead of minecraft hunger games which was popular YEARS before either PUBG or fortnite were around

    pubg's lineage is more directly connected to ARMA mods but whatever. all the good innovative BR games die and you can see bits of their corpses in the big 2.

  • culpritus [any]
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    2 years ago

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_royale_game#Early_mods_and_games_(2012%E2%80%932016)

    Most good game concepts start out as mods. It used to be a big selling point on many popular games: mod support. Seems like cross-platform and anti-cheat have resulted in very few successful multi-player mods or even mod support in mp games.

      • wwiehtnioj [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Valve for all their faults are one of the only companies in gaming (or even in general) that has some long term vision and recognize that being actively hostile to consumers is not a good long term strategy.