• Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The Soviet archives report about 730,000 executions during the Great Purge. To what degree that was appropriate given the conditions faced by the USSR is up to you.

      The 1932 famine was not deliberate but there was significant administrative mismanagement that contributed to the death toll. It is reasonable to level the accusation that the Soviet administration had both the ability and the duty to intervene in the famine earlier and failed to do so. The reasons for this are very complex, but the fact remains.

      Mass deportations of ethnic groups after the war is a pretty big Soviet L. The famine conditions of 1946 combined with almost non-existent preparations for the arriving populations caused a lot of unnecessary deaths. Also, collective punishment always causes more problems than it solves.

      My understanding, which is admittedly limited, was the Sino-Soviet split was largely due to the actions of Kruschev's administration after Stalin's death.

    • JosefStainlessSteel [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Deportations due to suspected collaboration with Nazis

      Almost entirely fictional. This is basically the "Uyghur genocide" of the 1940s.

      As the nazi army ate more into Soviet territory. The Soviet Union then pulled people into the territory to prevent them being exterminated. The classic example is the Crimean Tatars with wikipedia claiming it was a "cultural genocide" (lmao sound familiar?)

      Soviet relationship with China

      Sino-soviet split happened because of the Kruschevites?

      Treatment of religion

      I um and ar about this but at the end of the day a lot Christians were White Guardists and only in 1940s when Stalin allowed Orthodox church back had they really taken on a Soviet orientation that wasnt traitorous

      Lysenkoism

      Lysnko was proven correct

      https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674089051

      • space_comrade [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Lysnko was proven correct

        https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674089051

        That's ridiculous, just because epigenetics are real doesn't mean his theory was sound at all. He made much bolder claims than what empirical evidence of epigenetics shows us.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Epigenetics is not what Lysenko theorized. The results and method of action are completely different. Lysenkoism's superficial resemblance to epigenetic phenomena is an accident of history, not evidence of suppressed genius.

        • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          yeah it's like saying anaximander "was right about evolution" because he said humans are descended from mermaids.

        • JosefStainlessSteel [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          I suspect this is a stretch but don’t have a deep enough knowledge of Lysenko’s claims nor epigenetics to really know.

          I actually read into it further last night and was mistaken. I had heard of Lysenkos resurgence and assumed he was right but it turns out he was just partly right and mostly wrong so ignore that.