I can't imagine what that does to a child's psyche. Like this is how you propagate serial killers right.
Like this is how you propagate serial killers right.
working in a slaughterhouse has been shown to increase likelihood of mental illness and violence, so maybe
I don't know about that serial killers if they gravitate or come from any job it's cops and soldiers
If you're not vegan, this is on you too. Turns out non-human animal exploitation requires human animal exploitation, who would have thought
The massive amount of dangerous work, environmental destruction and depletion of ressources necessary to produce murdered animal corpses is an order of magnitude higher than to produce beans.
Cell phone: required to get a job in first world countries, which is required to get food, which is required to survive
Eating animals: expensive, actively harms you
Conclusion: yeah these are definitely comparable
If you’re not vegan, this is on you too.
Something something ethical consumption under capitalism.
By all means, be vegan. But all the asparagus water in the world won't wash clean the sins of the American agriculture industry.
Just stop making excuses.
You need to be able to prescribe a solution that's bigger than "Just stop making consumer choices!" Otherwise, its no different than screaming at people to properly sort their recycleables.
at least you won’t sound pretentious with the whole “i have nothing to do with these children, its capitalism’s fault!”
There's a difference between acknowledging a problem and LARPing a solution. Again, by all means, if vegan lifestyle works for you then you're a better person for doing it. But you're still participating in the society. Those grocery dollars are ultimately going to the same agricultural firms and propping up the same institutions as everyone else's.
This isn't an excuse, its a function of a consolidated market.
And while I try like hell to shop local and avoid Big Ag wherever I can, I still recognize that I'm just a drop in the bucket. My actions are an attempt to be ethical with very limited input and even less information.
I'll do what I can to subvert it. But I sure as hell am not going to feel personally guilty because of centuries of institutionalized labor abuse.
hundreds of people trespass into a meatpacking plant and sabotage it to shut down production, for the climate and to prevent their heinous labor practices and abuse of animals.
Cheers to this. Where do I sign up?
Now, how many of those people in that action risking serious prison time do you think eat meat themselves? The idea is comical.
Not comical at all. Plenty of people are chomping at the bit for serious action beyond mundane consumerism. But they're disorganized, they're paranoid, and they're terrified of the state response.
You don't need to subsist exclusively on leafy greens to express horror at the treatment of livestock. If diet was all that took to dissent, Ag Gag laws wouldn't need to exist.
But you’re asking for some collective action people can take against eating meat without individually not eating meat.
I'm personally of the opinion that farming doesn't need to be inherently abusive or abhorrent. I would love for some kind of organization to channel productive opposition to the existing system. That goes well beyond the "do you eat meat?" binary.
The massive amount of dangerous work, animal murder, environmental destruction and depletion of ressources necessary to produce murdered animal corpses is an order of magnitude higher than to produce beans. Even under socialism it would be unethical.
The children, they yearn for the slaughterhouse, and with hands as small and nimble as they are, who am I to say no?
we should make the children of the CEO do the same job at the same age.
We should send the CEO to the slaughterhouse. You know, for a thorough inspection. Make sure they get a real good look at the equipment, you know?
Or we could take pity on the child and not propagate mental harm. Radical idea, I know. Little kids are innocent.
I’m willing to learn. Perhaps I really did misinterpret your meaning. I don’t want to be a debate bro, but elaboration would be really be appreciated.
the minute you put to work the children of the CEO, that exploitation ends and no more children will work in slaughterhouses.
I see your point, but if we had the power to do that we would have the power to implement a better solution.
yeah if we could make the ceo send their kid we could simply make them not send kids
Teaching "Sins of the Father" (but not really, just in Minecraft) and then wondering why my kids spend all their days cutting themselves.
Any manager who was ever in a room with a single one of those children should never see the outside of a prison cell again.
The C level executives of that company and company(s) that contract out to them should be fucking beheaded
the mechanism of outsourcing/contracting/subcontracting is invariably framed as a business strategy to "cut costs", but i stg it seems like 90% of that "cost cutting" is in the form of obscuring liability for heinous shit.
JBS is the largest meat packer on the planet. they are the parent of every every brand you have ever heard of, their C-level is full of "former" government officials throughout the americas and they pay heavy to play everywhere they want.
the fact that their corporate logo was shown in b-roll on a flag for less than 2 seconds on this story made me raise my eyebrows, because you almost never hear their name in the mouth of someone on TV. there is no chance they receive even a light hand-slapping over this, despite them having the most power, culpability, and benefit from this practice.
Were these the guys that sued Oprah for saying she didn't like hamburgers?
no, that appears to have been a politically connected association of cattlemen in texas. JBS makes that kind of group look like 4 kids running a lemonade stand.
