or as i like to call it GNU/LINUX

  • throwawaylemmy [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Obviously the big ones are that “Linux is hard”

    It is hard for Microsofties, because they have used a GUI all their life. If they grew up with (MS)-DOS and Unix to where they had to "cd D:/," "dir," "doom.exe" command-learn? They'll probably be somewhat comfortable (but nervous) when they have to go into TTY mode and fix things that are broken.

    The major problem you might have is if you are tied to proprietary software like Adobe CC or Microsoft Office.

    Let me get back to this...

    Even if you play a lot of games you shouldn’t let that stop you, most popular games work well on Linux or you could always dual boot.

    ...Ok, getting back to your above point, for games: Halo's multiplayer will NOT work, due to Easy Anti-Cheat. You can get the single-player to run, which is great (showing MS the what-for), but some folks aren't just playing the campaign.

    Lutris will work for non-Steam titles, but: Updates break the titles, which means those users that are scared of the command line and/or having to configure things themselves will have to fix the Lutris script (or wait days for the person to update/fix the script that wrote it). Magic: the Gathering: Arena updates nearly weekly/monthly. This means the "Linux port"/Lutris script will break every other fucking day in a roulette of "did it update? No? GREAT I CAN PLAY WITH NO ISSUES!"

    This is the "proprietary" shit beyond Photoshop for most folks.

    I get that Linux is seemingly permanently stigmatized as frustrating nerd shit

    It's not ""stigmatized" when the community can't work on getting those "proprietary" things to work. GIMP is not a suitable replacement for Photoshop no matter how hard the GIMP developers try. I'm sorry (not sorry) to be the bearer of bad news there.

    Also as much as I love Debian, it's "out of date" driver support and the like makes it horrible for gaming. Yes, I can use Ubuntu, etc. etc. other Distros but: Why? The forking of so many different flavors of the "OS" (while a strength) is what kills it with Joe Sixpack right out of the gate.

    I will continue to be an annoying Linux nerd because it really is better for most things.

    And Linux will continue to be annoying for those that do not have the time/inclination to dabble with it. If you don't understand this, the "evangelicalism" is not doing you favors.

    • unperson [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      GIMP is not a suitable replacement for Photoshop no matter how hard the GIMP developers try

      I don't agree with this. In fact it's the opposite: the problem with GIMP is that the devs are incredibly insular and opinionated and they just don't care about what their users think. Getting a non-trivial patch into GIMP is so difficult that most of the effort towards a better GIMP usually dies as an unmaintained fork in github. I'd seen the mailing list and I'd almost prefer editing articles about the USSR in Wikipedia to contributing to them.

      On the other hand you have blender, which does pay attention to their users, and is in a middle of a virtuous loop in which it keeps getting better, which affords it more funding for more testing and more developers that make it even better, and it's quickly becoming the artistic 3D modelling programme.

      Edit: In the 2D space I have a lot of hope for Krita: even though it's not meant to be a general purpose image editor it already has a lot of features that GIMP has been promising for decades and might end up replacing it at this pace.

      • throwawaylemmy [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Blender is an example of doing things right. IIRC, it worked better than... Maya...? to where it overtook. GIMP simply does not beat Photoshop in doing things better (and the workflow is worse, IMO) to where "just use GIMP" is a fools suggestion.

        GIMP's only claim to fame was "GIMPshop" which got co-opt'd, because it actually attempted to match the UI of Photoshop.

        I'm not talking the development here, I'm talking simply in terms of product replacements a lot of Linux "alternatives" fall short. GIMP was the first one that came to mind because of the "Photoshop stops Windows users from jumping to Linux" meme.

        • unperson [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I'm not saying the GIMP is wonderful, I'm saying that if the GIMP developers actually tried, it might as well become more popular than Photoshop.

          • throwawaylemmy [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            Well, that's the thing: They have to try and unfortunately, they aren't.

            That's not to poo-poo their efforts: They aren't a 500+ employee development house, obviously. But in terms of workflow, features, UI, etc.: GIMP falls far short in comparison to Photoshop.

            Krita might do it, if they go the Photoshop route, which they aren't (and for good reason).

      • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        In the 2D space I have a lot of hope for Krita: even though it’s not meant to be a general purpose image editor it already has a lot of features that GIMP has been promising for decades and might end up replacing it at this pace.

        I use Krita for my... "art"... it suits me perfectly, and the linux build runs very well....
        but i cannot for the life of me get my tablet to work right on linux, tried every solution on google, and it still isn't as good as it was straight out of the box on my windows partition