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Don't tell people. Ask people. Be Socratic about it.

Questions are much better than statements. Questions create more questions.

"Why is it that when we do it it's good but when they do it it's evil regime?"

If you don't get the answer you want, just ask more follow up questions. "Yeah then why is blah blah blah".

Instead of telling people, say the same shit but with a question. It gets you a lot further through barriers and resistance.

0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself sad. He is starting to suspect Kras Mazov fucked him over personally with his socio-economic theory. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.

I kinda struggle with this problem myself but pointing how Bolsheviks went from absolute lowest point to the space in 40 years gives me hope.

I think this onion is far too nested to directly peel.

If you try to go layer by layer, well if you start at the top then there are far too many “but what about this” alley ways that it becomes a mess and if you start at the bottom it’s too radical a shift in world view to possibly compute.

You gotta pill people. It’s the only way. Find something that gets them to start asking questions, start asking the right kind of questions and you peel that onion for itself.

The other major thing is that it seems most logical to move immediately to facts first since we are operating with an empirical mindset which means we believe that truth comes from observing what occurs in the world.

Most liberals are not empiricists or are only weakly empirical with by far the dominant form of reasoning being rationalism, meaning they believe that truth mostly comes from inquiry in the mind more so than from what’s observed in the world.

It’s why it’s so difficult to move past ideas like “the rules say we vote to decide government and therefore we control government policy” because that’s a fine rational argument but they’re blind to the empiricist perspective that observes the system actually works in a different way despite what the rules say.

There’s an empiricist v rationalist split us vs the mainstream dominant liberalism, which has really gotten much worse since the fall of the Soviet Union, is more close to people like Hillary Clinton and Stephen Pinker. The Obama and the Al Gore optimists who are so confident in the rightness of their vision that they permit themselves any methods to enforce it.

This empiricist vs rationalist thing very much goes alongside the materialist vs idealist split.

The difference is an entire mode of thinking. It’s like someone who views a cuckoo clock as a series of delightfully synchronized events vs someone who views a cuckoo clock as a system of cogs and pulleys.

Developing a culture of martyrdom is one way that oppressed cultures keep hope alive. A martyr isn't a victim of an isolated act of violence. They're part of a long, historical struggle against oppression. By tying the honored dead of the present to those of the past the suffering of the present becomes part of a long, deliberate struggle. The valor of the past is embodied by those fighting in the present. The deep and immediate awareness of decades, centuries, or even millennia of struggle allow people to view themselves as something bigger than an individual, as part of a great historical struggle. Knowing that many have come before you, fighting and dying for a better future they will never see, provides comfort that even if you fall others will take up the flag after you, and when the yoke is finally cast off you will be remembered and honored, and in a sense you will be present to partake of the cherished victory you did not live to see.

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I drink with coworkers and talk about work and use work drama as a catalyst

I try to focus on “wouldn’t it be better if [insert some socialist and or communist frame of thinking around a part of the persons life] were a thing.” I try to dispel the illusions of capitalism/neoliberalism/modernity with benefits of an alternative. That’s my entry point when talking to people. Maybe it’s my evangelical upbringing but I have found it easier to focus on the benefits of the new way of thinking rather than highlighting the negative of the current.

My completely unknowing assumption is that organisation into groups that can actually achieve difference for peoples' lives is how you instil hope.

I'll take any other hope potions going though, I'm sure running on empty.

I talk about projects I'm working on and dreams I have. If they respond well, I slip them the little orange book.

emphasize more how good it feels to go communist and internationalist and really start to give a shit about working people around the world imo (all nationalities, ethnicities, gender expressions, sexual orientations, and so on), not in the fake liberal way but really taking the side of AES and oppressed people

Also, emphasizing "what we can do about it," (which at the moment that you're talking to someone, amounts to sharing info and communicating, not really debating but not being afraid to share opinions and facts) in terms of our historical task as proletarians, there's actually a whole lot we can do about it if we can start to organize and act as a class again. Then emphasizing that pretty much all the good things we have as workers, we owe to communists, socialists, anarchists, and so on that were willing to stick their necks out and take serious risks to try to force things to change.