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  • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    all of the plants would be privately-owned by Elon Musk-type bazinga brains who’d lobby congress to strip away all safety regulations for the sake of profit maximization. They’d be poorly managed and exist exclusively in impoverished, mostly black and brown areas.

    Is this an issue with nuclear power or an issue with capitalism?

    It's not like fossil fuels or green energy are worker owned co-ops owned by the people

    • Flyberius [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      My issue with nuclear is that even with all the saftey regulations in the world, a natural disaster, a war or any number of other things can and will happen, and then you've poisoned a whole region for decades. What is wrong with using renewable energy? Why do we need to harness the atom just to power treats? Save the fissile material for something epic like a space station the size of a city or something.

      • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        What is wrong with using renewable energy?

        Nothing except that we literally don't have the resources to scour the earth to meet the energy demands of an entire planet.

        and then you’ve poisoned a whole region for decades.

        I'm sure the poisoned watersheds of mining waste for cobalt, lithum, and other rare minerals are completely recoverable as toxic lead and waste seeps into the soil.

        Not to mention the absolute disaster that oil has turned the Niger river delta into.

      • TheCaconym [any]
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        2 years ago

        My issue with nuclear is that even with all the saftey regulations in the world, a natural disaster, a war or any number of other things can and will happen, and then you’ve poisoned a whole region for decades. What is wrong with using renewable energy?

        Nuclear is the only energy source that would only require a very large decrease in our collective quality of life to try and survive climate change, instead of a gigantic one if we went with renewables only. Most likely even both will not be enough, mind you.

        Also, producing renewables at such a scale means an absolute disaster ecologically to extract, process, and transport the resources required.

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          And a small coal plant actually emits more radiation in a month than a large nuclear plant emits in years.

      • edge [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        a natural disaster, a war or any number of other things can and will happen, and then you’ve poisoned a whole region for decades

        It's not like we're stuck at Chernobyl level standards. "Poisoned a whole region for decades" is not a thing that would happen. Fukushima wasn't "poisoned for decades" despite being an absolute fuckup.

      • EffortPostMcGee [any]
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        2 years ago

        Save the fissile material for something epic like a space station the size of a city or something.

        Gotta hand it to you, this might be the single best case against (earth-based) fissile energy that I've ever seen. And I mean that genuinely :meow-hug: , a floating space city powered by angry rocks would be genuinely cool.

            • EffortPostMcGee [any]
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              2 years ago

              pointing out hairbrained sci-fi things i find to be cool = being a redditor. 80 billion brain cells and you could only bring them together to try to flex on someone being nice. hexbear feels more and more like im at a jokerfied academic conference with dunning-kreuger leftists, more than an internet community. no wonder virtually no one posts.

    • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Nukes have exclusions zones when bazinga brains want to cut corners and squeeze a bit more out of the angry atomic bee machines.