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  • Civility [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Emphasising class over race helps fascists.

    What's an intersectionality?

    • Sodope [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Reed would not have been disinvited from the DSA event if they saw him his an important piece of the intersection. They rejected it.

      • Civility [none/use name]
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        NGL I can stan like a maximum of half the letters in DSA and have no real idea who Adolph Reed is or what he did to get him disinvited from the demsucc speed dating club.

        That being said, the BLM movement is deserving of our uncritical support and I'm intensely suspicious of anyone criticising them or trying to portray the liberation of oppressed classes and races as in conflict with each other like you're doing in your title.

          • Civility [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            There's certainly nothing perfect under the sun but I do think there are people, movements and ideas it's unproductive to publically criticise 😉

            We only have so much social capital, if we say too many things peple kind of stop listening and the more things we try to emphasise the less effective it is. Additionally, when people hear support or criticism of ideas/movements/people/etc often they won't process or retain the reasons behind the support/criticism they'll only hear and remember Thing GOOD or Thing BAD.

            That's what uncritical support means to me, not that there are no valid criticisms to make, but that making them in a publically is counter productive.

            • Sodope [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              I guess the issue is it's impossible for every criticism to made privately. But I hear you.

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    4 years ago

    honestly if talking more about race brings the working class out to the streets because more of the working class itself is interested in resolving racial issues i don't have a problem with it. i feel like reed fell into a trap where it's taken for granted that running through the same marxist academic talking points over and over will help, though at this point it's clear that if the modern activist wing is out of touch the condition only gets more extreme towards reed's end where working class engagement is completely nonexistent.

    • Sodope [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      If that happens that would be good. But this is an example of that NOT happening. His points about class where unwelcome at the DSA. The reason, in his view, is that he does not place enough blame on race. And that made them uncomfortable in the current climate.