• Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 months ago

    When I'm bored I bait libs by telling them that as soon as the fabs in Arizona are spun up and producing at capacity the US will forget where Taiwan even is. Their denials give me strength.

    • citrussy_capybara [ze/hir]
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      2 months ago

      considering all the problems they are having finding competent usians it could be a while

      • MattsAlt [comrade/them]
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        2 months ago

        Yeah, have a degree focused on chip making. There's going to be something like 50k jobs not filled and a lot are highly technical. Many STEMlords are not interested in a job that forces you into a cleanroom in a less than ideal location when they could code or do other jobs that are remote/ based in a large metro for as much or more

        US needs to heavily incentivize these programs in schools and find a way to raise pay for the positions if they ever hope to outcompete Taiwan

        • someone [comrade/them, they/them]
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          2 months ago

          This is the really bonkers part. Fabs use ridiculous amounts of water. Whoever thought that about-to-be-walloped-by-climate-change Arizona was a good spot is either insane or part of some sort of grift.

          • HexBroke [any, comrade/them]
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            2 months ago

            The majority of Arizona's water goes to agriculture which would be impacted more by climate change (currently using ~6000 gigalitres a year)

            Compare that with

            The average semiconductor facility uses 7-15 megalitres of pure water per day; Intel used around 34 gigalitres of water in 2015.

      • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        Bombing Taiwan and evacuating their scientists is a good way to get your US plants up. It’s why they keep insisting china is about to go to war.

    • Beaver [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      The only things the US is good at building are financial scams and skinner boxes. Any time they try to build something like a road or a factory, it costs a bazillion dollars and takes 10 years.