You don't have to admit that the consequences of moving a rock have been overstated by a few comrades in this community. But saying "I don't have to because of the Navajo nation" feels extra disingenuous. I've been to the Navajo reservation. You can touch and even move most of the rocks. No one cares.
Excellent struggle session prompt.
Edit: Being a little disingenuous is the most important ingredient in a good online struggle session. Sometimes, the struggle is not real!
You can go overboard with the rock stacking. But I assure you that touching and handling most rocks in most circumstances is without either legal or ecological consequences, even on the Navajo reservation. There's some sacred spots I wouldn't even want to look at out of respect, but if I pull over on the side of the road to admire the view, and I pick up a rock to take a good look at it, and then ask a tribal cop who's hiding out there if it's illegal for me to hold this rock, he will be very confused.
As far as rock stacking and land management agencies go, the National Park Service itself has constructed many cairns. It seems to be fine.
As a geologist, yes you are legally supposed to get permits before you mess with rocks. You then bring the permit to a ranger and they laugh at you for bothering to get one (this has literally happened to me, the rock I took is next to me as I type this).
Honestly, this whole struggle sesh reeks of the personal responsibility side of environmentalism. Its dumb to lecture a comrade for moving a rock when :porky-happy: is chugging along as always. Similar energy as libs telling you to :vote: lol
You've spent hundreds of hours. I've spent countless thousands of hours. I've seen where there's consequences and not consequences. This is getting really bizarre.
You don't have to admit that the consequences of moving a rock have been overstated by a few comrades in this community. But saying "I don't have to because of the Navajo nation" feels extra disingenuous. I've been to the Navajo reservation. You can touch and even move most of the rocks. No one cares.
Excellent struggle session prompt.
Edit: Being a little disingenuous is the most important ingredient in a good online struggle session. Sometimes, the struggle is not real!
"I can break the rules and nobody immediately tackles me, that must mean the rules are there for no reason" :brainworms:
I ran into a bus full of kids, and then fled the scene of the crime and no one figured out I did it and prosecuted me for it? Must be ok then.
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You can go overboard with the rock stacking. But I assure you that touching and handling most rocks in most circumstances is without either legal or ecological consequences, even on the Navajo reservation. There's some sacred spots I wouldn't even want to look at out of respect, but if I pull over on the side of the road to admire the view, and I pick up a rock to take a good look at it, and then ask a tribal cop who's hiding out there if it's illegal for me to hold this rock, he will be very confused.
As far as rock stacking and land management agencies go, the National Park Service itself has constructed many cairns. It seems to be fine.
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As a geologist, yes you are legally supposed to get permits before you mess with rocks. You then bring the permit to a ranger and they laugh at you for bothering to get one (this has literally happened to me, the rock I took is next to me as I type this).
Honestly, this whole struggle sesh reeks of the personal responsibility side of environmentalism. Its dumb to lecture a comrade for moving a rock when :porky-happy: is chugging along as always. Similar energy as libs telling you to :vote: lol
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You've spent hundreds of hours. I've spent countless thousands of hours. I've seen where there's consequences and not consequences. This is getting really bizarre.
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Just called the Navajo tribal police and asked if I can pick up a rock. They said it's fine as long as I didn't put it down on another rock.
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I said you were right!
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