• bidenicecream
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    2 years ago

    Leonardo DiCaprio is 50 and is still dating 18 year old girls, does anyone else feel like this is wrong?

    He's 48 and she's 19, unless you're trying to intentionally mislead with your thread title.

    But that's besides the point. Leftists need to understand that the age thing isn't as big a deal as it seems. Honestly this sounds like some moralistic western left thing.

    Conservative idiots will point out that kids can elect to start the transition process at a much younger age and use that as some kind of argument "win" against the same leftists who get creeped out by age gaps. Even though they're only pointing this out as a debatebro tactic (cuz they actually hate trans people), the point still kind of stands. If you're willing to let teenagers make big life decisions, then at the very least an 18 year old should be able to date someone much older. Otherwise you run the risk of infantalizing people, which has its own set of issues. And tbh it's also ageist to suggest that older ppl should "stay in their own lane" so to speak.

    • Phish [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Conservatives are absolutely already using this moment to bring up the age people can transition. Granted most of them seem to think there are toddlers getting reassignment surgery, so it's not exactly rooted in reality.

      I tend to think that an 18 year-old does have the right to decide if they want to date somebody older than them. That being said, being in my 30s, the concept of dating an 18 year-old sounds extremely weird to me. I have no interest in developing an intimate relationship with somebody that much younger than me and I would strongly question the motivations of somebody who does, at least until the younger person reaches their late 20s.

      So I don't really know. I don't think I'd support making a relationship like this illegal, but I don't think it should be normalized in society either. Maybe that's hypocritical?

      • trucknuts [none/use name]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        Dating a significantly older person is not at like taking hrt when your twelve. If anything having more kids willingly take hrt will result in less discord shenanigans between minors and discord predators.

        • Phish [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          I'd have to defer to people with more knowledge of hrt on the specifics there, but I absolutely agree that comparing taking hrt in your teens to dating somebody 30 years older than you is completely ridiculous.

    • Catradora__Stalinism [comrade/them,she/her]
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      2 years ago

      And tbh it’s also ageist to suggest that older ppl should “stay in their own lane” so to speak.

      this is one of the stupidest things i've read all day

    • trucknuts [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      You see nothing wrong with a very old person electing to date a younger person? The power dynamic is exploitative, it’s not as bad as outright

      spoiler

      pedophilia

      but there’s gotta be a rule that deals with situations like Leonardo DiCaprio exclusively dating young girls. That should be legally prosecutable. We have Romeo and Juliet laws for a reason, we need to have a Leonardo DiCaprio law. Like it’s okay if a 30 year old dates a 30 year old once, five times though? That’s gonna require some reeducation.

        • space_comrade [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Leo is definitely guilty of being a complete fucking manchild but I don't see why you would make being a manchild illegal.

          Like what are the options here exactly? Codify the "half your age + 7" rule into law?

                • trucknuts [none/use name]
                  hexagon
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                  2 years ago

                  A broken clock is right twice a day. One is teatotaling and the other is promoting literacy.

                  • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    they also popularised vaccines, invented anarchism (the puritians were way cooler in England than America), and cut off Charles the 1sts head

              • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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                2 years ago

                Im pretty sure Ive read stuff that proves that Europe's attitudes about alcohol and young people actually lead to LESS alcoholism and binge drinking among the youth. Surprise surprise.

              • space_comrade [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                It's 18 in most places.

                Also it's not like the law ever stopped teens from getting hammered.

                You're approaching this from a very US centric perspective. The age of consent is pretty low in most EU countries, it doesn't mean old creeps fucking 16-19 yo girls is at all acceptable.

            • trucknuts [none/use name]
              hexagon
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              2 years ago

              Maybe for low alcohol content beer but hard liquor should require a higher age, so should smoking and driving. 18 isn’t the magic number, neither is 21. The idea that there’s a single age we consider someone an adult is outdated.

              • usbgen4 [none/use name]
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                2 years ago

                Practically speaking driving is a necessity to get around in a lot of places. Like work and school

                And anyways I think teen drivers are bad primarily due to lack of experience. I started driving in my 20s but I don't I was better than where everyone else started out at

                • trucknuts [none/use name]
                  hexagon
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                  2 years ago

                  Driving is a necessity in places like the United States where public transportation has been purposefully gutted by the white population to stop racial integration. Yes young people would economically suffer, but it would disproportionately affect young white people the most, the demographic that already has too much shit to begin with.

                  Look, if there’s a large amount of people that are suddenly disenfranchised because they can’t drive no more and getting the right to drive again back isn’t an option, they will change their way of living, a lot will struggle. BUT MAYBE THATS THE PRICE TO PAY FOR YOUR FUCKING ANCESTORS ENSLAVING BLACK PEOPLE YOU CUMSKIN FREAK!

      • fratsarerats [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        We have Romeo and Juliet laws for a reason, we need to have a Leonardo DiCaprio law.

        Didn't he star in a Romeo and Juliet movie actually?

      • TrashGoblin [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        I don't think it should be legally prosecutable, because the law is a blunt instrument, but I do think it should be socially unacceptable. Subject to social stigma, not invited to the good parties, miss out on opportunities, etc.

    • TrashGoblin [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      And tbh it’s also ageist to suggest that older ppl should “stay in their own lane” so to speak.

      I dunno, I'm pushing 50, and I'd look a little askance at anyone my age dating someone under 35.