I'm not like, FIRMLY against that idea despite my personal investment in the matter, but I do think trying to legislate away the agency of young adults is a bad path to go down. For me, I think a 19 year old is firmly capable of deciding who they want to love or fuck. And if coercion of some kind is used, then that can be approached legally because coercion was used.
I'm not saying arrest the younger party of the relationship. I would consider them the victim here
I think a 19 year old is definitely not capable of entering a relationship with a 25 year old on equal terms let alone a 50 year old. They have only begun to be adults at that point
I realize I shouldn't be admitting this in this thread but. I'm dating a 21 year old and we've been dating for two years. I'm in my thirties. You can find that gross if you want but she chose me and from talking to her I believe she is capable of deciding that on her own. Like I said, we've been together for two years and have discussed the age gap issue. She feels insulted and infantilized by people with your perspective on the situation.
Its also worth noting that like, due to autism and developmental delays I'm not actually in a significantly different "life stage" than she is. I dont have a family or career. We both have somewhat equally independent living situations (I live in disability housing, she lives on a commune).
I know when I was that age I would have thought the same and now realise how much maturing I have done since.
Every case is different and your case sounds like it's fine but I think as a general rule the power dynamics at play between a 19 year old and an older adult do not leave them on an equal playing field and I believe consent does require being on equal footing
My rule with age gap relationships between adults is that they arent inherently wrong, but the older partner has to be careful about how they approach the situation so they do not abuse the power dynamic.
I believe consent does require being on equal footing
There are definitly power dynamics too wide for consent to be a thing, but they are also power dynamics that are on the smaller end of things where consent isnt IMPOSSIBLE, just dicey.
Bc there’s no meaningful differences in life milestones/experiences between 25 and 26? I have very little trouble telling the difference between your scenario and mine
He’s an actual groomer, he grooms young women into having sex with him and dumps them before they turn 25. It’s not as bad a pedophilia but he’s getting there.
Yeah wtf is going on with people, yes it's mere legality doesn't mean it's actually totally fine. I think people feel bad because they mightve dated an older person once - which is fine! We all have done dumb shit!
Also, the people imagining themselves dating 18 year olds when they're 50 is gross and I'm not sorry about it. But that doesn't mean they can't do what they do, they just also have to accept that there are people that will think they're gross for serially dating 18 years. Take your lumps.
:epstein: up in here lol
Absolutely hinged comparison
If 18 is ok why not 17? Where do you draw the line
The line has to be drawn somewhere because the only alternative Ive seen is sex liscencing and that has eugenics issues.
18 seems like a reasonable place to draw it, though based on my experience talking to young people Id personally put it at 19.
or there could be different ages of consents for different ages. For example it could be illegal for someone over 25 to sleep with a teenager
I'm not like, FIRMLY against that idea despite my personal investment in the matter, but I do think trying to legislate away the agency of young adults is a bad path to go down. For me, I think a 19 year old is firmly capable of deciding who they want to love or fuck. And if coercion of some kind is used, then that can be approached legally because coercion was used.
I'm not saying arrest the younger party of the relationship. I would consider them the victim here
I think a 19 year old is definitely not capable of entering a relationship with a 25 year old on equal terms let alone a 50 year old. They have only begun to be adults at that point
I realize I shouldn't be admitting this in this thread but. I'm dating a 21 year old and we've been dating for two years. I'm in my thirties. You can find that gross if you want but she chose me and from talking to her I believe she is capable of deciding that on her own. Like I said, we've been together for two years and have discussed the age gap issue. She feels insulted and infantilized by people with your perspective on the situation.
Its also worth noting that like, due to autism and developmental delays I'm not actually in a significantly different "life stage" than she is. I dont have a family or career. We both have somewhat equally independent living situations (I live in disability housing, she lives on a commune).
I know when I was that age I would have thought the same and now realise how much maturing I have done since.
Every case is different and your case sounds like it's fine but I think as a general rule the power dynamics at play between a 19 year old and an older adult do not leave them on an equal playing field and I believe consent does require being on equal footing
My rule with age gap relationships between adults is that they arent inherently wrong, but the older partner has to be careful about how they approach the situation so they do not abuse the power dynamic.
There are definitly power dynamics too wide for consent to be a thing, but they are also power dynamics that are on the smaller end of things where consent isnt IMPOSSIBLE, just dicey.
I agree with that.
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Bc there’s no meaningful differences in life milestones/experiences between 25 and 26? I have very little trouble telling the difference between your scenario and mine
Hexbear needs a purge lol
:fry:
Idk what you expected when you see the other half of my name, its kind of my thing to want
When is there not a purge?
they haven't gone through this one yet
TC69 would ban every pervert in here
Are they gone?
I dunno tbh
their spirit lives on nonetheless
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He’s an actual groomer, he grooms young women into having sex with him and dumps them before they turn 25. It’s not as bad a pedophilia but he’s getting there.
Yeah wtf is going on with people, yes it's mere legality doesn't mean it's actually totally fine. I think people feel bad because they mightve dated an older person once - which is fine! We all have done dumb shit!
Also, the people imagining themselves dating 18 year olds when they're 50 is gross and I'm not sorry about it. But that doesn't mean they can't do what they do, they just also have to accept that there are people that will think they're gross for serially dating 18 years. Take your lumps.
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Okay, maybe we all need a hard enforced site wide grass touching session to cool off lol
Creep with pedophile characteristics