We’re talking about a disease introduced in the 16th century with documents of deliberate spread dating to the 18th and 19th. The bulk of the damage in the Columbian Exchange had already been inflicted.
I honestly don't get what you're trying to say here. Do you think the fact that a disease was inadvertently introduced in the 16th century somehow excuses the fact that it was deliberately used as a weapon in subsequent centuries?
I usually agree with your comments that I've seen here on hexbear, but this weird.
i think the idea is that initial contact plague was when natives had the limited immunity that so disproportionately affected natives
after those centuries and contact it wouldn't have been disproportionate anymore so when europeans ordered smallpox blankets it mightve been effectively the same as handing them to white people
im not an epidemiologist so i dont know if thats true but i believe that's the line of argumentation
I honestly don’t get what you’re trying to say here
That disease spread wasn't a deliberate decision.
Do you think the fact that a disease was inadvertently introduced in the 16th century somehow excuses the fact that it was deliberately used as a weapon in subsequent centuries?
Of all the genocidal policies implemented by colonial actors, this was approaching the least consequential.
I usually agree with your comments that I’ve seen here on hexbear, but this weird.
Fixating on the spread of disease following First Contact turns a lesson about managing and mitigating disease from a public policy problem into a morality myth.
It gets on my nerves because it confuses the necessary response - particularly in the wake of another big global pandemic - as "Don't trust evil foreigners!" rather than "Develop a modern medical system and health care policy".
No one here is "fixating" on anything. This is like me saying "burning Vietnamese villages with flamethrowers was horrible" and you going "but what about agent orange?"
It's possible to have two or more thoughts at the same time.
It gets on my nerves because it confuses the necessary response - particularly in the wake of another big global pandemic - as “Don’t trust evil foreigners!” rather than “Develop a modern medical system and health care policy”.
This is all in your head. No one here has suggested anything even close to this. WTF are you on about?
First Contact guaranteed an exchange of pathogens. Continuous contact guaranteed propagation.
This is like me saying “burning Vietnamese villages with flamethrowers was horrible” and you going “but what about agent orange?”
No. This is akin to claiming Vietnam was caused by fossil fuels, asserting fossil fuels are colonialist, and then repeatedly pointing to Mai Ly to make your case while calling anyone who disagrees a Colin Powell apologist.
No. This is akin to claiming Vietnam was caused by fossil fuels, asserting fossil fuels are colonialist, and then repeatedly pointing to Mai Ly to make your case while calling anyone who disagrees a Colin Powell apologist.
I honestly don't get what you're trying to say here. Do you think the fact that a disease was inadvertently introduced in the 16th century somehow excuses the fact that it was deliberately used as a weapon in subsequent centuries?
I usually agree with your comments that I've seen here on hexbear, but this weird.
i think the idea is that initial contact plague was when natives had the limited immunity that so disproportionately affected natives
after those centuries and contact it wouldn't have been disproportionate anymore so when europeans ordered smallpox blankets it mightve been effectively the same as handing them to white people
im not an epidemiologist so i dont know if thats true but i believe that's the line of argumentation
That disease spread wasn't a deliberate decision.
Of all the genocidal policies implemented by colonial actors, this was approaching the least consequential.
Fixating on the spread of disease following First Contact turns a lesson about managing and mitigating disease from a public policy problem into a morality myth.
It gets on my nerves because it confuses the necessary response - particularly in the wake of another big global pandemic - as "Don't trust evil foreigners!" rather than "Develop a modern medical system and health care policy".
Yes it fucking was.
No one here is "fixating" on anything. This is like me saying "burning Vietnamese villages with flamethrowers was horrible" and you going "but what about agent orange?"
It's possible to have two or more thoughts at the same time.
This is all in your head. No one here has suggested anything even close to this. WTF are you on about?
First Contact guaranteed an exchange of pathogens. Continuous contact guaranteed propagation.
No. This is akin to claiming Vietnam was caused by fossil fuels, asserting fossil fuels are colonialist, and then repeatedly pointing to Mai Ly to make your case while calling anyone who disagrees a Colin Powell apologist.
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