The Americans provided one vital element: they convinced the Sixth Fleet planners to add a research and development exercise to the program. The exercise, as made public by the Navy, involved the Sixth Fleet in collaboration with the Navy’s “research and warfare centers.” The at-sea event would be held off the coast of Bornholm Island and involve NATO teams of divers planting mines, with competing teams using the latest underwater technology to find and destroy them.
It was both a useful exercise and ingenious cover. The Panama City boys would do their thing and the C4 explosives would be in place by the end of BALTOPS22, with a 48-hour timer attached. All of the Americans and Norwegians would be long gone by the first explosion.
Excuse me what? That's the most obvious timing in the world. Of course you wouldn't detonate it while you're still there. Oh but we were nowhere near that explosion when it happened! Said the madman to the child.
Guess I just had to keep reading, Biden didn’t approve of the 48 hours so they had the US and Norwegian navies engineer a solution.
On September 26, 2022, a Norwegian Navy P8 surveillance plane made a seemingly routine flight and dropped a sonar buoy. The signal spread underwater, initially to Nord Stream 2 and then on to Nord Stream 1. A few hours later, the high-powered C4 explosives were triggered and three of the four pipelines were put out of commission
I remember someone here mentioned the Maritime patrol plane that flew the length of the pipelines the day they blew up, as well as the Baltic naval exercise that coincided with the strike on Nordstream, so it’s encouraging to be able to show that we were right.
Maybe this is :doomer: though but I doubt this story has legs. You think everyone who’s still going slava Ukraini knows or even cares about the schemes going on in the background? I’ve explained to multiple people about Nordstream and what it means for US/NATO and the proxy war, but I’m afraid it doesn’t sink in because of the propaganda.
Gonna enjoy waving this article in people’s faces though. Also lol at Victoria Nuland being Biden’s undersecretary of state, I didn’t know that or just forgot. Amazing
I doubt this story has legs. You think everyone who’s still going slava Ukraini knows or even cares about the schemes going on in the background?
It'll be like Iraq.
Lies come out early on, but most people ignore them due to propaganda.
Gradually, as the costs of war are realized (and more lies emerge), supporters are peeled off.
Many people ignore the whole situation for years. Some likely acknowledge the lies, but stop their vocal support instead of start vocal opposition.
The consensus gradually becomes "this war was a bad idea," with more and more people becoming open to the fact of the lies. "We had good intentions, but what can you do?" is still pushed heavily, though.
A decade or three down the line the lies are supported by incontrovertible evidence, but "this new war is different."
So major :doomer: if the pattern continues, but in the short term this may help blunt rabid warmongering.
Public opinion is far away from the actual levers of power. This will matter for the leaders of the US, Russia, and Germany tho I assume they all already knew the bulk of this information. Will be interesting to see if this actually shifts anything in how this “proxy” war is being carried out
But so what? Who was going to do anything about it? Look how things turned out. There was never any other credible suspect, America was the only country that stood to gain from it, and Ukraine didn't have the capability.
Excuse me what? That's the most obvious timing in the world. Of course you wouldn't detonate it while you're still there. Oh but we were nowhere near that explosion when it happened! Said the madman to the child.
Plan so dumb senile :biden-alert: had to override them and force them to detonate the explosives later lmao
Guess I just had to keep reading, Biden didn’t approve of the 48 hours so they had the US and Norwegian navies engineer a solution.
I remember someone here mentioned the Maritime patrol plane that flew the length of the pipelines the day they blew up, as well as the Baltic naval exercise that coincided with the strike on Nordstream, so it’s encouraging to be able to show that we were right.
Maybe this is :doomer: though but I doubt this story has legs. You think everyone who’s still going slava Ukraini knows or even cares about the schemes going on in the background? I’ve explained to multiple people about Nordstream and what it means for US/NATO and the proxy war, but I’m afraid it doesn’t sink in because of the propaganda.
Gonna enjoy waving this article in people’s faces though. Also lol at Victoria Nuland being Biden’s undersecretary of state, I didn’t know that or just forgot. Amazing
It'll be like Iraq.
So major :doomer: if the pattern continues, but in the short term this may help blunt rabid warmongering.
Public opinion is far away from the actual levers of power. This will matter for the leaders of the US, Russia, and Germany tho I assume they all already knew the bulk of this information. Will be interesting to see if this actually shifts anything in how this “proxy” war is being carried out
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They really are the live ball in this situation. I really need to find good news sources for what’s going on in the EU/practice my German
It seems like a damp squib. At this point no one really cares. We look out the window. We see the horrors. We shrug. We turn back to the TV.
the fact that norway is involved makes so much sense lol
Just like how you can't trust those damn Sweds, you can't trust those crafty nords.
As a Norwegian, I agree 100%
But so what? Who was going to do anything about it? Look how things turned out. There was never any other credible suspect, America was the only country that stood to gain from it, and Ukraine didn't have the capability.
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