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Jesus Christ, a Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist reporting what we all suspected.
my condolences to his loved ones after his sudden death next week
Nah Hersch is an old dude they'd have given him his prize a long time ago. Plus this isn't really anything without evidence to back it up. I suspect everyone who matters knows what the US did but given the way the board is positioned no one is in a position to do anything about that. If they had definitive evidence then maybe... idk, like Germany could try to buy some breathing room, but they're really in a double bind right now - If they try to turn away from the US than DC has a lot of ways to turn the screws on them starting with just slowing down gas deliveries. And Russia can't offer them any meaningful support. So they're kind of stuck.
Asked why he thought the Russians failed to respond, he said cynically, “Maybe they want the capability to do the same things the U.S. did.
Treating it like a tech demo, I guess?
what "response" were they expecting, an ICBM launch? doesn't make sense to me.
It would also be beyond dicey to pull off some proportional response (like the U.S.-Iran exchange over Soleimani) unless it's clear the U.S. did it. That's at least half the reason to keep it secret.
At that point any response on Russia's part would have just played in to NATO's war mongering. If it could be shown to be Russian action then you'd have the "mystery" of the nordstream 2 but look over hear Putler attacked X! If it couldn't be shown to be russian action then as far as the public is concerned that's just two mysteries, and the US just proved to Russia and the EU that it's more than willing to destroy it's own allies and take direct unprovoked attacks against a nuclear power just for chump change so you can't really out-crazy that.
Did they ever outright accuse the US of doing the job? Can't remember myself, but he might just be referring to a statement of condemnation.
Yeah as mentioned in the article, Sweden has the capability to detect this kind of behaviour with advanced radar and sonar. It's how they keep finding Russian submarines in their waters. So they definitely knew about what the US, Norway and Denmark were up to, and most likely have the "smoking gun" in terms of evidence. But they won't release it because of obvious reasons (NATO membership).
Sweden already reportedly backed away.
Have they? I can't find anything about that.
Russia has no reason to respond to an event which benefits them.
Germany is now a vassal state of the USA because they have no access to raw materials to do anything. Russia is plenty happy to sell their nat gas to other countries and let germany's industrial capacity evaporate.
From Russia's POV, the long con is the de-industrialization of Germany, and that was just accomplished. Germany was forced to choose a side by the USA; buy our nat-gas or else.
This seems like a pretty big deal.
So this will never be acknowledged or covered by corporate media, yeah?
I recently came across a half-buried admission that they couldn't find evidence of Russian involvement so far, but you really have to look for this kind of stuff. It's not the all-out slava ukraini agitprop onslaught like last spring, but there is no MSM left here that's openly critical of US foreign policy anymore, so you have to read between the lines a lot.
He only cites an anonymous source. A whistleblower might not want to give up their name, but usually at least provides some evidence. There is nothing here but a tale that goes on long tangents which have nothing to do with the matter at hand. So I doubt much will come off it unless the story gets at least a little bit more meat on it's bones.
Seymour Hersh is the guy who exposed the My Lai massacre. Not to go full lib credibility monger here, but I don't think this guy would say this for no reason. Especially since he's an American citizen and there's a strong incentive in our bipartisan war mongering media echochamber to ignore this kind of thing and just say the russians did it over and over. So if anything his conflict of interest would go against exposing this. He's publishing this in spite of the incentive structure at play.
Seymour Hersh definitely gets used for limited hangout sometimes for sure, but historically his info has been good and has said in the past that he basically benefits from from internal politics in the intelligence community more often than traditional whistleblowers.
At this point I'd be much, much more interested in evidence the US didn't do it. Saying "The US did it and this is how" is just kind of "well yeah duh we knew that the only question was the details" but if someone could show something convincing suggesting another actor it would actually change the picture.
The pipe line not gonna blow itself, from the way I see how this cover in the media and how the "investigation" went, or how they don't want the Russian to do jointly investigations even though half of it is Russian investment. Yeah, either america or their guard dog did it.
So can we use this to just attack Biden on gas prices? The only type of imperial adventurism critique he could actually be sensitive to lol
Who was the professor from some Ivy League school who said this on a program?
I'm going to need one more piece of identifying information. what program?
Jeff Sachs maybe?
