I thought I knew a lot about Internet culture, but maybe not? I'm still not sure why New Balance is the incel/ 4chan shoe; what makes the Neutral Milk Hotel album funny and "meme-able"; and why Joker (2019) was so singularly influential for the culture. Does anyone feel like they can't keep up? Should we want to keep up? This makes me wonder if there's an Internet savant out there who sits in the Aleph, the Jorge Borges invention where you can see everything in the universe, but in this case it's a couple decades of Internet drama. Maybe that would be KnowYourMeme, although whenever I've gone there it's riddled with so many ads that it's unreadable.

  • Dryad [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Maybe that would be KnowYourMeme, although whenever I’ve gone there it’s riddled with so many ads that it’s unreadable.

    Ok gramps, it's 2023 now. Time to install an ad blocker, no more excuses, they've been ubiquitous for like 10 years now

  • bluescreen [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Joker wasn't the movie the corporate media told us it was. They told us it was going to be the incel Citizen Kane, that it was going to inspire mass shootings, and the media were practically salivating at the thought of multiple tragedies occurring at the premiere.

    Nothing of the kind happened. The movie turned out to make the corporate media the villains who take the side of the powerful and tell the little guy he's the source of all evil in society. No wonder they told us not to watch it. Dishonest assholes.

  • GaveUp [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Neutral Milk Hotel is not funny, it's a masterpiece

    • chickentendrils [any, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      It can be funny, I saw Jeff Mangum live almost exactly 10 years ago at a relatively small venue (Strand Capitol, now the Appell Center, in York, PA). Religious experience, entire crowd singing along, but it was very funny to look at the venue staff who were all middle aged, horrified, must have thought we were in some kind of cult with Jeff looking homeless with a huge beard at the time, everybody singing along about domestic violence and semen and shit.

    • CetaceanPosadist
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      2 years ago

      joker is influential because clownery is an acceptable avenue for men to wear makeup

  • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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    2 years ago

    Neutral milk hotel is raw, experimental, and uses strange techniques. However, if you don't meet it where it is at it comes across as silly. Like, if you don't think hard about it, yesterday by the beetles is an okay song, maybe kinda sad but nothing to dislike. Beach Boys has nothing going on under hood, the music is what it is and is fine unless you dislike it in particular. Yes is a little goofy, but it's just fun and never seems too serious so if you laugh it's normal. King Crimson is deep and weird, but very aggressive and esoteric. If you don't like it it's an angry reaction to the noise. Pink Floyd is very raw, more focused on a feeling very often, the music is again okay if you aren't paying much attention. But neutral milk hotel is very raw, very introspective, and nothing without the words. And if they don't hit you, it's silly. It's a weird way to talk and sing. It makes people uncomfortable, but not profoundly. So, memes.

    New Balance is very suburban. Great for walking short distances in, better than loafers, but not for hiking or serious physical activity. At best jogging. Can be used for the gym, as the wear isn't on the shoe like when running. Clean looking slightly expensive but affordable. Cannot be the only pair of shoes you have. They are the epitome of the American upper middle class dream. Channers are envious of that and want it, so these attainable symbols of that life are all right.

    Joker spoke to white male disenfranchisement, masculine mental illness and self-harm, and the want to give into the violent desires men are told they have. Every man has wanted to go on TV and ridicule everyone who has been mean to them, especially when they've taken it in the face for a while. It never questions if other people have it worse than joker.

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        2 years ago

        Of course. I spend too much time online and trying understand a lot of memes or movements that are Ultimately pointless.

  • ilyenkov [she/her, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Honestly we should not want to keep up. I hate that I've been on the internet long enough that I get FOMO when I stop keeping up, I warped my brain with it when younger. Its bad. The internet culture is bad.

    • FugaziArchivist [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I'm not a big believer in "human nature," but I remember seeing studies showing that a majority of people hate the feeling of being out of the loop. Of being on the outside and not knowing something. I sympathize with this a lot

  • Blep [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The meme aleph would more likely be tvtropes

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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      2 years ago

      Not since 2016. Too far into itself and retrospective, it misses the now.