When I was a kid I loved Heinlein, Asimov, Piers Anthony, Howard, Lovecraft, among dozens of other then popular scifi and fantasy authors

Heinlein is some weirdo libertarian fascist

Asimov hates women and was a notorious sex creep

Zanthony is a pedophile and his books are full of creepy shit

Howard was staggeringly racist

Lovecraft is also famously racist.

And that's just the ones off the top of my head.

At some point I learned that all these guys were creeps, came to terms with it, and moved on with my life. Like an adult.

So all these people whining that "oh no I can't let go of my childhood!!!!" fill me with contempt. Many of the great shit-head scifi/fantasy writers of the 20th century made great contributions to the field of fantasy and sci fi. Our conception of robots wouldn't be the same without Asimov. Heinlein changed military sci-fi forever. Howard's Conan had a lasting impact on fantasy fiction far beyond what was merited by his mediocre writing. Lovecraft introduced the notion of Cosmic Horror that continues to push back the borders of science fiction today.

Rowling can claim none of that. Her wizard books are extremely mediocre with poor plots, flat characters, and no new ideas. Their popularity is the result of a then unprecedented marketing campaign, not any particular artistic merit. They're entirely pedestrian and forgettable and there's no reason to read them except as a historical curiosity or a case study in successful marketing of children's literature.

I gave up many genuinely influential and talented writers when I realized that they were jackasses. There was nothing riding on it. No one is using Lovecraft to justify violence against Inuit people or something. I just found out they were jerks and said "Well shit. Guess I won't recommend these to kids anymore".

And all these jackasses have the audacity to say that we should respect their love of the mid wizard book beause it's so important to them?

  • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Yes and the TERFS were fought off when they tried to co-opt him due to his Monstrous Regiment piece (a very well written story on the perceptions of gender norms in society, also there's a lesbian couple). Snuff is also a damn good piece by him.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I hear an anecdote that after introducing Cherry a trans person met him at a signing and asked if Cherry was trans. Pterry said "I don't know what that means, could you explain it?" and so they did and Pterry said something like "Well I didn't mean for her to be but now that you explain it to me I see she is." and I always thought that was really charming. I don't know if it's true at all, but Pterry seems like someone who would occasionally find themselves tied up in fighting against an oppression before he even understood what it was.

      • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Yup, overall I just think Terry Pratchett was good as he wrote from a humanistic perspective compared to how a lot of sci fi writers give off creepy libertarian brained vibes and takes (looking at you Heinlein).

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          The young witch novels are also spoken fondly of by a lot of people. Tiffany Aching is a young woman who has adventures, and unlike Harry she's clever, kind, courageous, and benefits from the mentorship of capable elders. Kind of everything that sucks about Harry is done well with Tiffany.

          Pterry also introduces one of the most beloved version of DEATH and I know a lot of people facing death and hardship have been comforted by the idea that someone like Pterry's DEATH might be there to shepherd them to their end.

          • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            I honestly loved his version of death and reading the 'Reaper Man' was a treat.

        • BeamBrain [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          We need more communist sci-fi creators with a good grasp of historical materialism. I try to be that, though I'm more of a game writer than a prose writer.

          • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            There's Ursula K Le Guin, good example of discussing a sci fi post scarcity commune and how it influences cultural vocabulary (written in the perspective of a character from a shitty capitalist mining world).

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Monstrous Regiment also features an older trans man and towards the end he has a really moving moment where he has to actually sit down and think about what being a man means to him, and he comes to a really wholesome conclusion and it's great. The whole book is a lot of fun. It also manages to embrace the fine British tradition of war-time crossdressing with more verve and daring than most examples.