I've seen self identified republicans who previously celebrated some the grimmest of republican fantasies switch and abandon those positions over the past few years. It's not impossible. You could be right that they're fringe cases - a lot of people build up a perception of reality, built on reinforced hate, that is pretty fucking robust -- but as idealistic as this sounds, we have the actual legitimate truth on our side, and I've seen it change people once it finds a weakspot through their acidic reality bubble.
I think we are largely in agreement, i mostly said anything because i have noticed a trend to romanticize Republicans as more open to oersuasion, mostly i think out of a sense if anger at liberals; not claiming you are doing this, I don5 know I just happens to find the need to say so etching and you were the person that I did it too. Relayed to my response ro assorted biscuits, and you last sentence, the real thing to get self identified people to shift isn't their a priori ideology but a material and ostchic crisis that leaves them open to propaganda whole they reevaluate their world. I would also like to point out that in my personal life I have seen a marked slide to the left among left libs in the past 10 years. Like they aren't leftists now, but deteriorating material conditions has left them unsure and angry, especially at the pandemic response and the seeming failure, especially on the part of the Democrat response to, the blm protests. On the flip side most conservatives i know have doubled down on either its the immigrants, in its more mild form, or the jews/trangenders(glad to be lumped in with my Jewish comrades) in its more virulent. This is just my personal experience, and to reiterate in another form my 'self-identification' point I have also noted a sharper clinging of older more affluent libs to the democratic party and vicious hostility to any left challenge, though this is, not surprisingly, a generational thing that matches with generational wealth disparities.
I've seen self identified republicans who previously celebrated some the grimmest of republican fantasies switch and abandon those positions over the past few years. It's not impossible. You could be right that they're fringe cases - a lot of people build up a perception of reality, built on reinforced hate, that is pretty fucking robust -- but as idealistic as this sounds, we have the actual legitimate truth on our side, and I've seen it change people once it finds a weakspot through their acidic reality bubble.
I think we are largely in agreement, i mostly said anything because i have noticed a trend to romanticize Republicans as more open to oersuasion, mostly i think out of a sense if anger at liberals; not claiming you are doing this, I don5 know I just happens to find the need to say so etching and you were the person that I did it too. Relayed to my response ro assorted biscuits, and you last sentence, the real thing to get self identified people to shift isn't their a priori ideology but a material and ostchic crisis that leaves them open to propaganda whole they reevaluate their world. I would also like to point out that in my personal life I have seen a marked slide to the left among left libs in the past 10 years. Like they aren't leftists now, but deteriorating material conditions has left them unsure and angry, especially at the pandemic response and the seeming failure, especially on the part of the Democrat response to, the blm protests. On the flip side most conservatives i know have doubled down on either its the immigrants, in its more mild form, or the jews/trangenders(glad to be lumped in with my Jewish comrades) in its more virulent. This is just my personal experience, and to reiterate in another form my 'self-identification' point I have also noted a sharper clinging of older more affluent libs to the democratic party and vicious hostility to any left challenge, though this is, not surprisingly, a generational thing that matches with generational wealth disparities.