Yankees go the fuck home.

  • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I’d argue the reactionary thought is cheering for exploited people to die because they were compulsively forced to kill other exploited people.

    Most people were volunteers and prison was always an option.

    Were the Waffen SS just poor propagandized victims, forced to kill by the state?

    • Dr_Gabriel_Aby [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      What if the 20k dead conscripted minority’s. Legit 1/4 of the dead.

      Edit: also the Waffen SS is volunteers. I’m not talking about volunteers. A better comparison to what I’m talking about is Italian or Hungarian draftees.

      It’s sad any of these people were exploited or put in a position where they felt forced to go into conscripted military service. I don’t think this site, one that typical is strong in showing empathy, should celebrate all deaths in a war as good.

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Edit: also the Waffen SS is volunteers. I’m not talking about volunteers. A better comparison to what I’m talking about is Italian or Hungarian draftees.

        No, a better comparison is the Wehrmacht, which was where all the Nazi draftees went.

        "Oh poor Hans, you shouldn't condemn him for being drafted into the Wehrmacht" - that's you right now. And I don't know about you, but that sounds like fascist apologia to me.

        • Dr_Gabriel_Aby [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Over 1 million soldiers on the eastern front in the Wehrmacht were conscripted ethnic minorities from areas that were forced to fight for occupation. They made up almost a quarter of the causalities. Very similar numbers to the minorities conscripted into the American military.

          It’s great that you are so much wiser than the 18 year old black kid from Arkansas that received draft papers in 1966 with no alternative media options to explain what the conflict actually was.

          I’m gonna hold my bloodlust for the actual architects and engines of war, rather than pray and cheer for the deaths of millions of grunts over the course of centuries of imperial conflict.

          • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            Over 1 million soldiers on the eastern front in the Wehrmacht were conscripted ethnic minorities from areas that were forced to fight for occupation.

            Oh poor Hans, you shouldn’t condemn him for being drafted into the Wehrmacht

      • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Conscripted minorities are certainly the most understandable perpetrators of the Vietnamese genocide. But prison was always an option, and every dead American soldier meant fewer dead Vietnamese.