gamers should get TWO walls

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, it's funny how these guys reach for the thesaurus to grab aposematism to describe people with dyed hair, but their views are so abhorrent and their demeanour so toxic it feels like its own form of aposematism

      To me the image board lolicon nazis feel like their own breed from other internet fash, just nothing but nihilism and self-hatred

        • BeamBrain [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          As I've seen it put: aposematism is there to ward off predators. If it repulses you, it's doing its job.

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        To me the image board lolicon nazis feel like their own breed from other internet fash, just nothing but nihilism and self-hatred

        It's the Waffen SS Division Oskar Dirlewanger, but they're bottle-pissing neckbreads instead of convicted thugs, murderers and poachers.

      • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        lolicon nazis feel like their own breed from other internet fash, just nothing but nihilism and self-hatred.

        Remember that 4chan basically had the idea that "we are the most horrible, evil, despicable people in existence." What is the evilest thing they could think of? Your standard "Red-blooded All-American" Republican. It goes to show how empty our enemies are, they do this all for laughs. I would like to assure you that they do not hate themselves, quite the opposite. They love themselves way too much, and practically see themselves as flawless Gods.

        I'm surprised that 4chan locked onto Patrick Bateman and the Joker as their fictional idols instead of Frieza, The Goblins from Goblin Slayer, or The Persona 4 antagonist. Spoilers for persona 4: But listen to the killer speak, sounds like something you'd read on a /pol/ thread.. Ironically, 4chan's full embracing of evangelical Christianity is the surest sign that it is Satanism in disguise as a benevolent religion.

        • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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          1 year ago

          I would like to assure you that they do not hate themselves, quite the opposite. They love themselves way too much, and practically see themselves as flawless Gods.

          No shot. 4chan drips with insecurity and deep-rooted self-hatred, they go there to call each other slurs and other abuse, it's a culture of digital self-harm. I think you're mistaking arrogance for confidence.

          • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I think I'd pin it as specifically entitlement. I'm the ubermensch, but I suck? but the world should mold itself to me anyway

        • Socialcreditscorr [they/them,she/her]
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          1 year ago

          4chan basically had the idea that “we are the most horrible, evil, despicable people in existence."

          I’m surprised that 4chan locked onto Patrick Bateman and the Joker as their fictional idols instead of Frieza, The Goblins from Goblin Slayer, or The Persona 4 antagonist.

          :soviet-hmm:

          They love themselves way too much, and practically see themselves as flawless Gods.

          :just-a-theory:

          • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Hey, don't look at me. This is the best I could do with trying to decipher what makes 4chan tick. Even after all these years, this is the best I got.

            • Socialcreditscorr [they/them,she/her]
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              1 year ago

              No you misunderstood. You already deciphered it before you even finished the comment. They don't actually see themselves as evil but flawless gods.

              • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                Gotcha. IDK why but I thought 4chan at least back then had some self-awareness that "we are horrible people and only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I think it's a pretty dangerous assumption that all of these men are not outwardly masculine. Some might not be but others might just repulse women with their personalities and open contempt

    • piaoliang [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Well yeah. They're men who have no place in a demasculinized society. Used to be, society would find a purpose for these men and set them on their path. With a matchmaker if necessary. Now? They've got nothing. They've figured out that humans aren't meant to live this way, and are really distressed and freaked out about it. These men used to be silent, but now we can hear them. And boy, we sure don't like what they have to say. Remember back when liberals thought that giving everyone in the world a voice and letting them talk together was going to fix every problem and would be the best thing ever? 20 years ago none of these people would have talked to more than a thousand people in their lives.

      I'm betting on AI. Before long it will be able to detect them from social clues and vocabulary patterns and we'll be able to silence them again. The end of internet anonymity would be a big step forward, too. China requires real-name registration to use any social network. Upset the users, and you get banned and can not return.

        • piaoliang [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          But their energy would have been redirected towards work and a family, and nobody would ever hear from them. Sure they'd be getting shat on, weak men are treated brutally by other men. The point is that they would not be loose to harm the rest of society. They could have all the intrusive thoughts they wanted about teenage girls and we wouldn't have to hear it. Now they're screaming 24/7 and their voice echoes around the world.

          • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            The energy that would be redirected towards the family in destructive ways. Their imagined golden age, the 50s, were replete with guys with essentially their same attitudes who would come home from work as an accountant at the screen door factory, drink a bunch of liquor and then do horrifying shit to their wives and kids. A lot of the core of the incel complaint seems to be that conditions no longer let them live the same way. It's true we didn't hear from those guys back then, but we also didn't hear from their victims

      • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        I don't think this exact toxic belief system existed 20 years ago. It has been built piece by piece by successive generations of increasingly unhinged alienated weirdos.

        If these people had ended up in a another internet community with a different culture they might still be alienated but not ...this.

        • Antoine_St_Hexubeary [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          It absolutely existed 20 years ago, and not much about it has actually changed since then ideologically or even stylistically, but it was mainly confined to UseNet, which the vast majority of internet users could safely ignore (or could not figure out how to access) and which mainstream media almost never covered.

        • piaoliang [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          It has been built piece by piece by successive generations of increasingly unhinged alienated weirdos.

          Well yeah. Because they had way too much time on their hands. They wouldn't have in the past, even if the internet had existed.

      • Antisocial_Socialist [he/him]A
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        1 year ago

        lol you weird incel wreckers can't help but tell on yourselves every damn time. I am begging you to go outside.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      To the reactionary, women can never be sexual subjects, only sexual objects.