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  • spring_rabbit [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    "War stimulates the economy" - guy whose country has never fought a defensive war.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      There's a big graveyard up in Gettysburg suggesting otherwise. And another at Little Big Horn.

      But imagine looking at Sherman's March to Atlanta, nodding sagely, and telling folks in the state "This will be good for your economy". Now imagine if Sherman had B-52s.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          Sherman should have turn back and made another pass…

          Eh. Maybe. But not for the sake of GDP.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          The Indian Wars were a pretty classic case of native peoples besieged by a foreign intruding power, within the North American continent.

            • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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              2 years ago

              what I mean is the Lakota Sioux (and allied tribes) wouldn’t have necessarily considered themselves part the Unites States of America

              Hence the war, sure. But then it ended badly, and now here we are.

              I could point to a bunch of other failed struggles, from the Whiskey Rebellion to Blair Mountain to the Greensboro Massacre and call them "defensive conflicts", too.

              It seems a weird response to be like yeah the USA has experience in fighting a defensive war, because of that time when doing genocide to First Nations they lost as the attackers.

              I'm not sure what to tell you other than that the US is conquered territory. Residents struggle against the occupation regularly. And those struggles regularly fail.