The venue only had 2 individual bathrooms open so there was a long line for both of them. They were labelled male and female but since the audience was like 95% men and they were individual rooms, people just went into whichever was free

There was a middle aged man who walked up to check out the bathrooms, and said to us in a sly manner while having a smirk on his face

"So are you men just using the women's bathroom?"

"Yea"

"But it's the women's bathroom"

"Well I mean it's a completely private bathroom so"

"hehehehehe, so we get to use the women's bathroom, awesome!" slinks away to the back of the line

I found it hilarious because it was something that I totally expected from a :trueanon: fan

Also, demographics were exactly what you expected. I think the city I was in was only about 60% white but I only counted ~8 minorities in the sold out venue and I was at the very back so I saw hundreds of people

  • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Still not 100% sure why washrooms are gendered in the first place it's not like people walk around with their genitals out

    • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      I would chalk it up to a vestigial form of white patriarchy showing up when the concept of the public toilet got invented. Federici points out in Caliban that white womanhood in particular and womanhood as a patriarchal subclass in general are forced to both present and materially be weaker than the men around them. Women weren't allowed to wear pants because the relative vulnerability imposed by their culturally acceptable mode of dress was part of the point. Women who did gain independence were burned at the stake of course. So if the construction of vulnerability, both socially and materially enforced, put women at a disadvantage, than it stands to reason from the reactionary viewpoint that therefore women need chauvinism, they need protecting. So if you're designing public restrooms, you're modeling it on the norms of the European nobility most likely, you're aware at some level both that women are made to be weak and men are given instruction on how to advantage that in a society that accepts most violence against women, then you get the age old turn of needing to now protect the women you've weakened. You give them their own bathroom to protect them from all those nasty violent men out there that patriarchal societies spend so much time building.

    • supdog [e/em/eir,ey/em]
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      2 years ago

      I do use the urinal with my genitals hanging out, to be fair. I could see ungendered bathrooms if they replace the urinals with stalls. OR I could just get used to it but there would be some getting used to it.

      • Blep [he/him]
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        edit-2
        2 years ago

        Which is just another argument in favor, stalls that is. Urinals with is comfy

        • supdog [e/em/eir,ey/em]
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          2 years ago

          What about the male desire to piss all over every toilet seat? I don't want to sound like a bathroom Nazi. My preference is that there's gendered bathrooms and everyone leaves everyone alone about which one they choose. I don't think non gender bathrooms are bad either but what we have works fine for the people who matter (nobody except a bathroom Nazi has ever complained)