Yeah, I'm worried because the mundane tasks it could automate are good ways to justify hiring on more junior people to gain experience. Which would make the fresh out of college job market even more insane, but people are treating chatgpt as if it's an oracle.
Pretty much all "jobs disappearing to automation" problems can be solved by replacing them with longer education or more research positions within education. Eventually transitioning all of society into essential work, entertainment, education and research.
Literally all good ideas are bad ideas when they get implemented by porkie, especially because the only reason porkie will implement anything is either to stop revolution or to increase their wealth.
We should still keep thinking of good ideas though.
I disagree. There is literally always more to learn. Have people learn more than one field, make some humanities mandatory. Slow down the existing degrees and splice the two together to create more rounded people with greater cultural understanding/influence, etc etc.
Not to mention the fact that you will need to provide liberals with a reason to give these people state benefits to survive, eat, drink, rent, etc. If there are no jobs, keeping them in education longer solves that by providing "in education" as the reason for the benefits instead of "unemployed".
There is, but at some point you have to apply learned to stuff to solve naturally occurring problems and find what you need to learn to solve them, or you feel like you are learning random shit.
Liberals will think what porky wants them to think. If ubi will be the way of maintaining the system, liberals will accept it :edgeworth-shrug:
Not everyone is american. But I'm not suggesting it shouldn't also be completely free. Makes no sense as a means of giving more people a thing to do in a world with fewer jobs otherwise.
I know my perception is heavily influenced by the status quo of how higher education works now, and I'm fully open to expanding academia for those who want it, but I would literally rather pull my teeth out than have spent another 5 years in school. So much of it is either so fully in the realm of theoretical that it boils down to little more than a circlejerk among the handful of people who can even pretend to understand it or practical application of concepts that are thirty years out of date because of the divide between the real world and professors.
The overwhelming majority of society isn't intelligent enough for higher education. It would either be wasted on them, they would flunk out, or standards would have to be lowered so low as to make their jobs irrelevant or even harmful.
This is absolutely not true. You don't have to be some brain genius to learn advanced topics. A lot of it is just studying something you find interesting and engaging. The idea that you have to be some kind of out of normal genius to appreciate art and literature, or study history, isn't true. Most of the hard part of college is the high stakes score high or fail nature of education. The goal isn't to teach, the goal is to grade people like cattle so porky knows how reliably they'll produce profit. Without the profit motive, in a society where the goal of education is to produce education people because that's a good in and of itself, it doesn't matter if someone whizzes through school or takes a decade to get their undergraduate. If education isn't artificially made scarce and hoarded then taking years to get a basic degree is fine. Puttering from discipline to discipline looking for something you jive with is fine.
It has nothing to do with class at all. It has to do with how smart you are. If you're not smart, you won't benefit from higher education, certainly post-graduate education. You have to be smart to even get in the door. Try to explain Tsiolkovsky's rocket equation and Kepler's laws of orbital mechanics to your average Trump voter. They will end up looking at you slack-jawed, then start screeching about emotions and feelings. The rocket equation doesn't care how you feel, either you produce enough delta-V and in the correct magnitude and direction, and you get to orbit, or you do not and instead fall back to earth. it's numbers and math and physics. Racists are well-known for their lack of intelligence. America is full of stupid, scared, fucked up sheep who tune into the Kardashians or reality TV for their enlightenment. Higher education won't benefit them.
When you were a baby you had no idea how the world worked same as them as a baby
you were then sent to schools which taught you the math and science to understand these things while they were sent to schools that didn't. To then attribute you being more able to understand these things to innate superiority is idealistic to the point you might as well believe in magic
What? Overwhelming majority? There are countries with age groups that achieved 60%+ with higher education completion. Even the US currently has like 45-47% with no special effort. Saying overwhelming majority is just false currently, let alone with extra effort.
Yeah, I'm worried because the mundane tasks it could automate are good ways to justify hiring on more junior people to gain experience. Which would make the fresh out of college job market even more insane, but people are treating chatgpt as if it's an oracle.
Increase education length by 5 years.
Pretty much all "jobs disappearing to automation" problems can be solved by replacing them with longer education or more research positions within education. Eventually transitioning all of society into essential work, entertainment, education and research.
This wouldn't be a bad thing except :porky-happy: wants to perpetually loot students already and that'd just be even more looting.
Literally all good ideas are bad ideas when they get implemented by porkie, especially because the only reason porkie will implement anything is either to stop revolution or to increase their wealth.
We should still keep thinking of good ideas though.
I'd rather think of the best ideas that would by necessity need to come first. :sicko-crowd: :porky-scared:
I'm happy with any solution that involves making teaching and research at a college a realistic career choice again lol.
nah, need to cut job hours. Education doesn’t get better with more years
I disagree. There is literally always more to learn. Have people learn more than one field, make some humanities mandatory. Slow down the existing degrees and splice the two together to create more rounded people with greater cultural understanding/influence, etc etc.
Not to mention the fact that you will need to provide liberals with a reason to give these people state benefits to survive, eat, drink, rent, etc. If there are no jobs, keeping them in education longer solves that by providing "in education" as the reason for the benefits instead of "unemployed".
There is, but at some point you have to apply learned to stuff to solve naturally occurring problems and find what you need to learn to solve them, or you feel like you are learning random shit.
Liberals will think what porky wants them to think. If ubi will be the way of maintaining the system, liberals will accept it :edgeworth-shrug:
Higher education is already unaffordable as fuck and you want to make it twice as long?
Not everyone is american. But I'm not suggesting it shouldn't also be completely free. Makes no sense as a means of giving more people a thing to do in a world with fewer jobs otherwise.
I know my perception is heavily influenced by the status quo of how higher education works now, and I'm fully open to expanding academia for those who want it, but I would literally rather pull my teeth out than have spent another 5 years in school. So much of it is either so fully in the realm of theoretical that it boils down to little more than a circlejerk among the handful of people who can even pretend to understand it or practical application of concepts that are thirty years out of date because of the divide between the real world and professors.
The overwhelming majority of society isn't intelligent enough for higher education. It would either be wasted on them, they would flunk out, or standards would have to be lowered so low as to make their jobs irrelevant or even harmful.
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This is absolutely not true. You don't have to be some brain genius to learn advanced topics. A lot of it is just studying something you find interesting and engaging. The idea that you have to be some kind of out of normal genius to appreciate art and literature, or study history, isn't true. Most of the hard part of college is the high stakes score high or fail nature of education. The goal isn't to teach, the goal is to grade people like cattle so porky knows how reliably they'll produce profit. Without the profit motive, in a society where the goal of education is to produce education people because that's a good in and of itself, it doesn't matter if someone whizzes through school or takes a decade to get their undergraduate. If education isn't artificially made scarce and hoarded then taking years to get a basic degree is fine. Puttering from discipline to discipline looking for something you jive with is fine.
that's just wrong and really classist
It has nothing to do with class at all. It has to do with how smart you are. If you're not smart, you won't benefit from higher education, certainly post-graduate education. You have to be smart to even get in the door. Try to explain Tsiolkovsky's rocket equation and Kepler's laws of orbital mechanics to your average Trump voter. They will end up looking at you slack-jawed, then start screeching about emotions and feelings. The rocket equation doesn't care how you feel, either you produce enough delta-V and in the correct magnitude and direction, and you get to orbit, or you do not and instead fall back to earth. it's numbers and math and physics. Racists are well-known for their lack of intelligence. America is full of stupid, scared, fucked up sheep who tune into the Kardashians or reality TV for their enlightenment. Higher education won't benefit them.
This, to put it very mildly, ain't it.
When you were a baby you had no idea how the world worked same as them as a baby
you were then sent to schools which taught you the math and science to understand these things while they were sent to schools that didn't. To then attribute you being more able to understand these things to innate superiority is idealistic to the point you might as well believe in magic
What? Overwhelming majority? There are countries with age groups that achieved 60%+ with higher education completion. Even the US currently has like 45-47% with no special effort. Saying overwhelming majority is just false currently, let alone with extra effort.