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  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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    I legit haven't seen it for a while. And yeah, that's not great. aspirational and immitable I'd give an eh, it's certainly not good but also literally no one wanted to be the Joker back then. There's a different cultural tie with being the Joker pist Dark Knight. It probably shouldn't have been done but I don't really think it had any significant effect on society.

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        It doesn't have a totallizing brainwash machine direct 1:1 effect on people. Media isn't a adbreakers art piece brainwashing ray. It's a cultural overlay that effects different people differently and in the MACRO SCALE can be manipulative, the cultural stimuli you absorb outside of media has a greater effect on how you absorb media than the content of the media itself. Your observations aren't universal either. Interpretation of art is probably one of the most inrinsinctly individual things there is and that interpretation works in subtle tandem with media's intent whether intentional or not to create an individual perspective.which though unique to everyone contributes to a greater core culture. Cherrypicking this and that which you don't like or hasn't aged well is fairly meaningless without any observation of outside context or that a plurality of people simply didn't take things the way you think they did. It's being incredibly reductive to both media influence and individual human intelligence and awareness of when they're being hocked to. People aren't blank slates who only watch TV and learn from it, we don't live in Platos cave and why people are the way they are demands much more rigorous understanding than what shows they watched.

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          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            I didn't say there no effect. I wrote an entire paragraph about the effect. It's not totalizing, and is a small piece.of a great cultural whole, like microbe small. It's not worth a thread every 2 days

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              • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                I could give a fuck about my entertainment being criticized, this 'you just wanna defend your treats' bullshit is way too easy of a dismissal around here. I'm just looking for good criticism.

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            They're both anecdotal so there isn't a high ground cause neither of us are basing anything in real data.

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              • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                Which was aimed at adults and depicted eating bacon as positive. That's not a parallel.

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                  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                    Bacon was associated with masculinity beforehand and they took that and ran with it. My grandfather was epic bacon guy in the 60s. It increased sales but that's because it took a previously existing cultural thing and blew it up. That's the difference, Batman tas was a part of a culture, epic bacon time used that existing kernel and turned it into a franchise. There is a difference there.

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          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            Did the Joker increase the number of abusive creeps or simply give them a media figure to latch on to? Wouldn't they just pick something else otherwise? Do you think they would be different people if it weren't for batman tas?

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              • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                Okay, and a lot of people consider Stsrship Triopers a leftist masterpiece. It's almost like there are things other than the media we consume that inform our interpretation Moreno than the media itself.

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