more expensive for NATO campaign >>>> the costs of rooting out some neonazi guerillas in novorossiya. im not saying the assessment is incorrect its just incontrovertibly more expensive than counterinsurgency. the US did an occupation of afghanistan for 20 damn years without ever mobilizing significant industrial or manpower resources. Russia's already had to expand its manpower.
and unless you're game for Russian casualty figures sub-10,000 & that this won't go up for a decade i can pretty confidently assert less would've been killed occupying & fighting guerillas
Putin ordered his generals to stop to the annoyance of his own generals
until we get internal docs this is speculation. the "stop order" during fall gelb was routinely called a meddling hitler political mistake until it was revealed how stretched supplies had gotten. we really don't know though & if its just Putin's personal fault, lmao, lol even.
you're completely talking past me at someone arguing that Russia wants/ed to occupy/annex the whole of Ukraine, and it was a choice between that protracted occupation & the present war of attrition
i'm saying the Russians earnestly pursued an objective of capturing Kiev and forcing a capitulation at the early stage of the war, that they did not want a drawn-out conflict. i don't think they were interested in occupying the whole Ukraine, they'd use an occupied Kiev to dictate a cession of Crimea et-al & force them to stay out of NATO. that's a fucking 'Special Military Operation', if it'd actually worked.
more expensive for NATO campaign >>>> the costs of rooting out some neonazi guerillas in novorossiya. im not saying the assessment is incorrect its just incontrovertibly more expensive than counterinsurgency. the US did an occupation of afghanistan for 20 damn years without ever mobilizing significant industrial or manpower resources. Russia's already had to expand its manpower.
and unless you're game for Russian casualty figures sub-10,000 & that this won't go up for a decade i can pretty confidently assert less would've been killed occupying & fighting guerillas
until we get internal docs this is speculation. the "stop order" during fall gelb was routinely called a meddling hitler political mistake until it was revealed how stretched supplies had gotten. we really don't know though & if its just Putin's personal fault, lmao, lol even.
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you're completely talking past me at someone arguing that Russia wants/ed to occupy/annex the whole of Ukraine, and it was a choice between that protracted occupation & the present war of attrition
i'm saying the Russians earnestly pursued an objective of capturing Kiev and forcing a capitulation at the early stage of the war, that they did not want a drawn-out conflict. i don't think they were interested in occupying the whole Ukraine, they'd use an occupied Kiev to dictate a cession of Crimea et-al & force them to stay out of NATO. that's a fucking 'Special Military Operation', if it'd actually worked.
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