https://cdn.ilsr.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/report-ESRS-2020-ilsr.pdf

Basically we combine offshore and onshore wind, solar, and other stuff where its possible.

  • cpfhornet [she/her,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    More efficient energy storage is going to be necessary before we really tackle the renewable balance, as right now the entire system is built heirarchically and for power to be utilized in real time. Socialists will have to either restructure around renewable microgrids and temporary mechanical energy storage systems (such as pumped storage, look up Ludington powerplant) until we figure out a solution for base load in non-renewable generation conditions, or we could change the way we consume and utilize electricity in general. Regardless, there are real technical challenges we face here, not just capital and the bourgeois state.

    • LucyTheBrazen [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      I mean sure energy storage is an huge issue, it also is a very excellent excuse to postpone making actual progress. Currently no one is "forced" to come up with a solution for this issue, because the system as is "works". I mean the US pours 20 billion dollar a year into fossil fuels. Even a fraction of that put towards developing a storage solution would go a long way.

      • cpfhornet [she/her,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Let me rephrase, I work in the industry, and we are nowhere near independence from fossil fuels for stable electricity for industry and consumers (and never will be under bourgeois dictatorship). There is so much work to be done in both technical advancement as well as even more work in restructuring the grid and it's transmission network.

        The only real answer to this problem is a familiar answer to us, but still out of sight beyond the event horizon for those consumed by liberal ideology. We will not escape the wrath of climate change without changing the way we relate to ourselves, our environment, and electricity specifically. Again, microgrids are likely to be the eventual solution, but this will take decades of work, work that will only be done once we're free from the industrial direction of the bourgeois, who do nothing but direct the flow of development towards profitable enterprise rather than sustainable human service.

        Tldr- IMO revolution will come before we even make a dent in the energy splits here in the US, and honestly the industry working base (ideologically) is pretty reactionary and anti-renewable. Comrades need to join the industry very badly, electricity is a necessity to our goals and if we have no-one who knows how to maintain and set up these grids, we'd face a near impossible battle trying to convince libs that the revolution is just and necessary when their power has now gone out indefinitely.

        • OptimusPrimeRib [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Comrades need to join the industry very badly, electricity is a necessity

          Can you do an ama about the industry in a separate thread? Alot of people either don't know about these things or were never give the option cause nobody suggested it.

          • cpfhornet [she/her,comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            I can definitely do that once I have time, just reply to this so I have a reminder ping lol. I feel that all of us on here need to be dumping all the industry knowledge we have for our comrades to know. I tried to get a c/labor community request going, but it hasn't garnered much traction. And it also is risky to be posting stuff like that, definitely have to be smart about it. But still, these times require us to share this kind of knowledge, if we don't know how the industries we all labor at work, interact with each other, and fit into the supply chain as a whole, we can never hope to replace it with our own.

        • LucyTheBrazen [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          I really like your optimism, but do you really think there'll be an actual revolution before we are past the point of no return?

          • cpfhornet [she/her,comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            Well that depends on what you mean by point of no return. When scientists talk about the point of no return, many are taking into consideration that decades of design/upgrade/reformatting work needed to our infrastructure, and this is why you see some scientists saying we've already passed the point of no return, since they don't see this work being done any time soon and it is getting all the more unlikely each passing day.

            Really, we're already past a version of a point of no return. But that point of no return might be more livable than we have predicted, and for that reason we must fight for the potential future within it. And even if its not, then what is there left to do but fight for the very existence of a "human" human race.

            • LucyTheBrazen [she/her]
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              4 years ago

              With point of no return I personally mean a runaway greenhouse effect, at which even a total cut in CO2 emissions would not be enough to halt the positive feedback loop.

              Technically, even then we could use technology to slightly reduce the amount of sunlight the earth receives to try and counteract the warming, but you know, we went from some mild and slow reforms 40 years ago, to pretty substantial measures 20 years ago, to measures never achieved before in human history today, right towards "just some little global scale sci-fi geo engineering" in a decade or two...

              • cpfhornet [she/her,comrade/them]
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                4 years ago

                Nah I don't really mean any idealistic hopes of technology saving us, moreso saying that as we pass the tipping points in a chaotic system that has only been observed at near equilibrium, our predictive capabilities for human habitability get less detailed and more speculative. Regardless of whether as a species we are doomed already, we will be even more doomed if we do not take a stand as one whole humanity and overthrow the systems that brought us here. We don't have any more time, we don't have another two decades to gather strength in the movement.

  • LucyTheBrazen [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Yeah but have you considered the impact that would have on fossil fuel industry shareholders?