• Wertheimer [any]
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    2 years ago

    Death to America. The Open Library was a beautiful thing. May it rise again.

    You can read the ruling here: https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/24/23655804/internet-archive-hatchette-publisher-ebook-library-lawsuit

    But Koetl wrote that any “alleged benefits” from the Internet Archive’s library “cannot outweigh the market harm to the publishers,” declares that “there is nothing transformative about [Internet Archive’s] copying and unauthorized lending,” and that copying these books doesn’t provide “criticism, commentary, or information about them.” He notes that the Google Books use was found “transformative” because it created a searchable database instead of simply publishing copies of books on the internet.

    Sure seems like everything good in the world (and everyone, for that matter) is being killed because “alleged benefits . . . cannot outweigh the market harm.” Great system here, folks.

    • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      But Koetl wrote that any “alleged benefits” from the Internet Archive’s library “cannot outweigh the market harm to the publishers,”

      Capitalism forces us to endure humiliation after humiliation after humiliation for the sake of assholes who think they're geniuses saving the world or plain evil people.

    • Pisha [she/her, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      He notes that the Google Books use was found “transformative” because it created a searchable database instead of simply publishing copies of books on the internet.

      Incredibly, a giant corporation that scans books for their own profit can get away with it, while a non-profit giving them to the masses is found illegal :amerikkka:

    • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      And if an IP holder ghosts, abandons, no longer makes reasonable access for free market purchase, it should be foriefet. That includes old websites, movies, books, and music that disappears from the market or servers and that was the whole point of the Internet Archive.

      If the author of the bit is dead then it should also be public domain. ___

  • culpritus [any]
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    2 years ago

    dropping a nuke on a pristine archeological site because some folks like to tour it instead of buying tickets to the amusement park

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Not surprised, capitalism is going to defend itself. Here's hoping everything uploaded on IA is getting backed up, once that happens it will never be erased off the internet.

    • FuckYourselfEndless [ze/hir]
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      2 years ago

      Even if it's backed up, the chilling effect it could have on people making shit publicly and easily available via anything similar in the future is going to suck.

  • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I also want to take a moment to PSA - BE YOUR OWN ARCHIVE.

    You might not have Petabytes, but Terrabytes are relatively affordable. Everything you share, find interesting, download - save a backup copy on deep storage. Don't keep it on your main.

    In this way, every time they try to zap a host - YOU can upload high quality originals to whatever service rises from the ashes.

    Even with YouTube, we see the degradation of old videos, which can be reuploaded to Youtube or another CDN or archive.

    They aren't going to zap us all. A persistsnt, distrubuted network can hedge against these types of raids. Even if one node or person gets nullified, it won't effect the entire collective knowledge.

    We can not jeopardize putting all our knowledge in one basket or site or server location.

    Refresh your deep dives with modern ones everg 10 years or so to keep up with modern tech as drives fail and commuication standards are constantly evolving rendering old tech obsolete.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Koeltl

    APPOINTED BY :billdawg: just :vote: blue!

    :joker-amerikkklap: :amerikkka:

  • mazdak
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    1 year ago

    deleted by creator

    • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      If the IA loses this case, the unlimited lending they did in 2020 opens them up to massive copyright damages, to the point that they would end up bankrupt.

    • OgdenTO [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I wonder if anyone is currently downloading all of these old books and if there will be a terabyte sizes torrent available at some point, just on case

      • mazdak
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        1 year ago

        deleted by creator

  • MaoistLandlord [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Is an archive of the archive available? Next time host in Russia or China

  • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    do they have a torrent collection which i could seed?

    i wish i had the $$$ to backup the entire site but its like atleast 50,000TB

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      2 years ago

      the Wayback Machine is one of the services offered by the IA, but not really at issue in this case. Hachette v. Internet Archive has to do with the lending of digital editions of copyrighted books, and has implications for similar materials they have, but shouldn't legally effect their collection of snapshots of publicly accessible web pages (although it would be a problem if they were sunk by damages). Same with archive.is.