I figured that was most of this forum. Even the people who are clearly minority comrades say this to me basically " all forms of oppression must be fought back against, now, but class is the primary mode of oppression"

  • Deadend [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I notice the other forms of oppression pop up as discussions THE MOMENT there is ANY progress, and it all instantly stalls out.

    I swear it’s a CIA move.

    • Changeling [it/its]
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      2 years ago

      Some of it is that some groups have a long history of being thrown under the bus as a sacrifice to make that progress sustainable. But the feds exacerbate this intensely.

      There are people who are good at validating the concerns of marginalized groups while still rallying around class interests and doing coalition building. Feds tend to use them for target practice.

      There are ways to have difficult discussions in a respectful and safe way which focuses on education and liberation. These patterns of discussion are coincidentally the polar opposite of how social media trains people to engage in arguments. The same social media whose monopoly status is protected by the feds in exchange for cheap mass surveillance and readily available sockpuppets for psyops.

      • Deadend [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Fictional example - as I don’t want to accuse real people of shit right now.

        Cop City protests finally get some major media attention and coverage - 5 minutes in, someone starts talking about oil pipelines.

        All the struggles are the same struggle, but knowing when it’s time to connect the dots, and when it’s time to push on a point are very important. Mostly it’s an in-person thing as online I can just scroll past.

        • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Stop Cop City is also Defend Welaunee. Taking about pipelines, especially ones being defended against like line 3 is a natural connection

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Remember when MLK, A Phillip Randolph and Bayard Rustin called a general strike for "jobs and freedom" and then felt the need to bring up race and it all instantly stalled put? Identity politics smh