If people living in apartheid Palestine are willing to have kids, I don't see the point of anti-natalism. Like, imagine repeating the same anti-natalist talking points in front of a bunch of Palestinians. "To be born in occupied Palestine is to born in a life full of misery, so you should just not have kids and be the last generation of Palestinians who have to live in occupied Palestine." I'm sure your average Palestinian is going to be very grateful that the anti-natalist advice for coping in occupied Palestine is to not have children and run the clock until every last Palestinian is dead. Who would've thought that the way to fight against oppression of Palestinians to wait until every last Palestinian is dead so that there's no more Palestinians to oppress.
i can't imagine palestine has great access to family planning, contraceptives, or abortion specifically let alone medical care at all. fucking is fun and free (until you have to take care of a kid)
gotta have more kids in case some of them die of cholera get killed by the IDF
but no, It hardly seems ethical to subject someone to living in occupied palestine, which is why the apartheid needs to be stopped, but in the meantime i couldn't knowingly and willingly put a kid through that. i'm mad enough at my own parents and by comparison i live in the lap of luxury.
Stopped by who? If the anti-natalists had their way, the liberation struggle would fall apart in a few decades because everyone involved would've either died from combat or old age with no future fighters to replace them. The Palestinian national liberation is a struggle that spans generations. How would anti-natalism even fit into this? If anything, anti-natalism is reactionary because it means Palestinians should not only give up their liberatory struggle but also save the Zionists trouble by self-genociding themselves instead. This is reactionary nonsense.
stopped by the people doing it. stopped by the international community that should be allies of the palestinians rather than the regime. resisted by the people who are already alive.
what gives you the right to conscript someone into a generation-spanning struggle?
stopped by the international community that should be allies of the palestinians rather than the regime.
Well, they're not pulling their weight. So what is to be done?
resisted by the people who are already alive.
And as I outlined earlier, the struggle will take generations. Are you under the impression the Zionist entity is gonna collapse within a year or something?
what gives you the right to conscript someone into a generation-spanning struggle?
I don't have the political power to stop Palestinians from having kids. There's isn't a magical button that I'm not pressing labeled "Palestinians can't make babies anymore."
If you don't want kids, that's your personal choice. But other people want to have kids and they're gonna have kids regardless of your objections, so what is to do be done?
If people living in apartheid Palestine are willing to have kids, I don't see the point of anti-natalism. Like, imagine repeating the same anti-natalist talking points in front of a bunch of Palestinians. "To be born in occupied Palestine is to born in a life full of misery, so you should just not have kids and be the last generation of Palestinians who have to live in occupied Palestine." I'm sure your average Palestinian is going to be very grateful that the anti-natalist advice for coping in occupied Palestine is to not have children and run the clock until every last Palestinian is dead. Who would've thought that the way to fight against oppression of Palestinians to wait until every last Palestinian is dead so that there's no more Palestinians to oppress.
Palestinian minds can't apprehend the razor sharp antinatalist arguments proffered by unemployed western 23 year olds, unfortunately.
i can't imagine palestine has great access to family planning, contraceptives, or abortion specifically let alone medical care at all. fucking is fun and free (until you have to take care of a kid)
gotta have more kids in case some of them
die of choleraget killed by the IDFbut no, It hardly seems ethical to subject someone to living in occupied palestine, which is why the apartheid needs to be stopped, but in the meantime i couldn't knowingly and willingly put a kid through that. i'm mad enough at my own parents and by comparison i live in the lap of luxury.
Stopped by who? If the anti-natalists had their way, the liberation struggle would fall apart in a few decades because everyone involved would've either died from combat or old age with no future fighters to replace them. The Palestinian national liberation is a struggle that spans generations. How would anti-natalism even fit into this? If anything, anti-natalism is reactionary because it means Palestinians should not only give up their liberatory struggle but also save the Zionists trouble by self-genociding themselves instead. This is reactionary nonsense.
stopped by the people doing it. stopped by the international community that should be allies of the palestinians rather than the regime. resisted by the people who are already alive.
what gives you the right to conscript someone into a generation-spanning struggle?
"Please stop genociding us, Mr. Zionist."
Well, they're not pulling their weight. So what is to be done?
And as I outlined earlier, the struggle will take generations. Are you under the impression the Zionist entity is gonna collapse within a year or something?
I don't have the political power to stop Palestinians from having kids. There's isn't a magical button that I'm not pressing labeled "Palestinians can't make babies anymore."
If you don't want kids, that's your personal choice. But other people want to have kids and they're gonna have kids regardless of your objections, so what is to do be done?
Wow that’s so terrible you had the horrid experience of living. I feel so bad for you
yeah you know, i've been made to suffer my entire life and nothing can make up for that. thank you for your compassion and understanding.
Lol the person asking for humanity to cease its existence is asking for compassion.
yes, that's what happened there. sure.
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I think we can agree everyone here is in reasonable good faith so yeah lets have compassion for each other
The person here is making anti natalism posts. That is clearly banned.
They are not in good faith, it’s virtue signaling over a viewpoint that can only be deemed fascistic.