I had a biochemistry professor say this might have been because people weren't eating enough fruit, so were getting antioxidants like quercetin from red wine. But also it's not fully understood yet how much antioxidants do for your heart, and if you really wanted antioxidants then things like onions and citrus fruits have like 10x as much.
Arguably the same thing is true about coffee. I say this as a specialty coffee lover but any vice that people claim has health benefits because of "muh antioxidants" really can be responded to with this argument. On the same note honey isn't "good for you". It's arguably a better sweetener since it has more flavor than sugar and as a result you can use less of it than sugar in food but the health benefits of honey are entirely in it's antioxidants and are easily outweighed by it's sugar content.
I do love me some honey in moderation though, but it's nothing more than a harm reduction replacement for sugar rather than a healthy ingredient in of itself.
Edit: Well to be fair there might be some minor benefits to heart health and cognitive ability through caffeine but only insofar as you are drinking a healthy dose of coffee early in the morning so your body can filter out the cortisol build up. Because the big misnomer about coffee is that it's just the caffeine that keeps you up. That's true if you drink it too late but it also produces cortisol which if you know about anything is bad for well, literally all of your bodily processes at the point at which it causes you stress, anxiety and sleep deprivation. There are some people whose neuro-chemistry allows them to down 3-4 cups a day and sleep 8-9 hours but for the most part if your brain is still working past 10-11 AM then you've got too much cortisol in your system and it's time to cut down on booze and coffee.
The opposite, coffee gives you more cortisol and it takes much longer to process than caffeine (3-4 hours, 5 hours max) so if you drink any coffee past like 11am then you're likely going to carry some of that cortisol into the night
Well yeah, caffeine stays in the body for roughly 3-5 hours.
I'll admit that I don't really have as scientifically accurate numbers for cortisol other than that in my personal experience it stays much longer and that it's accumulative. For example if I have coffee in the morning and booze at night I know I wont sleep, but if I have only one of those during the day I'll probably be fine
I had a biochemistry professor say this might have been because people weren't eating enough fruit, so were getting antioxidants like quercetin from red wine. But also it's not fully understood yet how much antioxidants do for your heart, and if you really wanted antioxidants then things like onions and citrus fruits have like 10x as much.
Arguably the same thing is true about coffee. I say this as a specialty coffee lover but any vice that people claim has health benefits because of "muh antioxidants" really can be responded to with this argument. On the same note honey isn't "good for you". It's arguably a better sweetener since it has more flavor than sugar and as a result you can use less of it than sugar in food but the health benefits of honey are entirely in it's antioxidants and are easily outweighed by it's sugar content.
I do love me some honey in moderation though, but it's nothing more than a harm reduction replacement for sugar rather than a healthy ingredient in of itself.
Edit: Well to be fair there might be some minor benefits to heart health and cognitive ability through caffeine but only insofar as you are drinking a healthy dose of coffee early in the morning so your body can filter out the cortisol build up. Because the big misnomer about coffee is that it's just the caffeine that keeps you up. That's true if you drink it too late but it also produces cortisol which if you know about anything is bad for well, literally all of your bodily processes at the point at which it causes you stress, anxiety and sleep deprivation. There are some people whose neuro-chemistry allows them to down 3-4 cups a day and sleep 8-9 hours but for the most part if your brain is still working past 10-11 AM then you've got too much cortisol in your system and it's time to cut down on booze and coffee.
what's this? I need to filter out cortisol when I wake up, and coffee helps with that? I am ignorant about physiology
The opposite, coffee gives you more cortisol and it takes much longer to process than caffeine (3-4 hours, 5 hours max) so if you drink any coffee past like 11am then you're likely going to carry some of that cortisol into the night
isn't that how long caffeine lasts? how long does it take to process cortisol?
Well yeah, caffeine stays in the body for roughly 3-5 hours.
I'll admit that I don't really have as scientifically accurate numbers for cortisol other than that in my personal experience it stays much longer and that it's accumulative. For example if I have coffee in the morning and booze at night I know I wont sleep, but if I have only one of those during the day I'll probably be fine