https://nitter.1d4.us/nytimes/status/1643538978014986240
Some people live their lives as complex psychodramas to assuage themselves of ever feeling guilty or anything negative about themselves
Our society has awful and a lot of people in it confuse health with morality.
EXCUSE ME videogames are good for your reflexes and thats a fact
I learned about mitochondria eve from Parasite Eve 2 and haven't learned a lick of anything since but that still proves video games are educational!
i learned about recessive genes from metal gear solid! since then i developed an antagonistic relationship with my siblings, questioning them wether i'm the recessive or they are.
As long as you haven't started any proxy wars with giant AI boats I think we're good
i cannot confirm nor deny any involvement in recent northward rivulet operations
in introducing massive carpal tunnel into the population we are teaching generations of [poor coded] kids that moderation is key!
It was a long con by the boomers to eradicate the social custom of high-fiving one another.
I think there is an argument that some level of vices are good for you, simply because for most people not partaking at all would drive up their stress, which is itself pretty unhealthy. But in this specific case I think a lot of the studies into drinking being good for you were funded by the companies that sold the drinks.
idk if vices are good for you, but people act like a lot of this medical science is not the accumulative averages of thousands of people shifting a value a couple of thousandths one way or the other. It's less true for smoking I think, but it's perfectly reasonable to say that drinking is generally unhealthy and tons of people will never be drastically affected by their moderate alcohol consumption because there are so many other variables in each individual's life that can never be accounted for. The same goes for a lot of "healthy" activities and foods too.
a nasty autoimmune condition a few years back that nearly destroyed his lungs
what is it called?
You could just admit you enjoy doing something that isn’t healthy for you.
Until you get emphysema or cirrhosis, sure. Then its not so fun. The trick is in finding a happy middle ground between short term creature comfort and long term pain.
I used to guzzle soda out of a fire hose. Then my teeth got so bad that I had to go through a root canal. Not fun. Now I don't touch the stuff.
Fortunately, root canals are something you can walk away from. Not everything is so easily treated
Takes like that are why I drink in the first place, it's a self fulfilling prophecy!
How come the “Science is settled” on man made climate change?
There's only one thing that can be done about those people. And that's [redacted]
An aside - I'm not joking when I say that Bret Stephens' very first NYT column was questing climate change because polls said Hillary would win but she lost.
The weather forecast was wrong yesterday, ergo climate change is a conspiracy
This is my all-time favorite tweet about the difference between actual journalists and columnists.
Freelancer, $35,000/yr: "I'm self-funding a three month reporting trip to a warzone to capture the untold stories of the war crime victims."
Columnist, $300,000/yr: "China's foreign policy is like an egg roll."
Oh yeah cool let's just go ask the scientists if the projections for climate change look the same as they did 20 years ago. Oh, weird, they're now saying everything is way worse than we thought it was and the only possible solution is global climate stalinism?
IIRC The "one glass of wine a day is good for you" studies are the ur-example of corporate-funded research p-hacking to get the result they want.
I think a lot of those studies used European populations as the "one glass of wine a day" group, and it turns out that it's not the alcohol that means they live longer, it's the socialized healthcare they all have.
And walkable cities leading to less sedentary lifestyles. And the mandatory vacation leading to a less stressful life. And...
Wine drinkers tend to be higher income, thus better healthcare. That's all it is.
If even a moderate amount is bad, might as well go all the way :tequila-sunset:
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I'm obviously not being serious
6% alcohol isn't an effective antibacterial, but 40% is.
I've seen alcohol kill people, there's literally nothing healthy about it. Same quack doctors that pushed smoking.
yep. like what id say is that "health" can be a set of ideological regimens as domineering as other oppressive structures under capitalism. Of course we should aim for a healthier society by removing certain things that don't give people joy but harm health (getting rid of lead, carcinogenic materials in foods, adding more walkability and transit options, reducing sugar and salt in food stables, ect) but like at the end of the day booze give people a great way to bond communally in a safe outdoor setting and getting rid of that sucks far more than just reducing your life span by a couple years.
Alcohol also gave us Neera Tanden and her late-night Xanax-and-Franzia-fueled Tweet storms. These directly resulted in a sitting US Senator uttering the words, "You called Senator Sanders everything but an ignorant slut" in a confirmation hearing, which has been one of the high points in the history of AmeriKKKan gerontocracy.
a safe outdoor setting
what safe outdoor setting where people drink booze?
i mean in their back yards, parks in chiller areas, basically everywhere in civilized country where public drinking bans aren't used as a way to harass ethnic minorities
This is so weird lol. Yeah the common thought was that “some” alcohol was good, but no serious doctor or scientist suggested anyone to drink if they don’t drink already. Unless it’s from the 20th century
Pretty sure this was based on the idea that wine in small doses supposedly is good for heart health. A decade ago I remember reading research that while this might be true, it's causes more stomach cancer than does support for your heart health
I had a biochemistry professor say this might have been because people weren't eating enough fruit, so were getting antioxidants like quercetin from red wine. But also it's not fully understood yet how much antioxidants do for your heart, and if you really wanted antioxidants then things like onions and citrus fruits have like 10x as much.
Arguably the same thing is true about coffee. I say this as a specialty coffee lover but any vice that people claim has health benefits because of "muh antioxidants" really can be responded to with this argument. On the same note honey isn't "good for you". It's arguably a better sweetener since it has more flavor than sugar and as a result you can use less of it than sugar in food but the health benefits of honey are entirely in it's antioxidants and are easily outweighed by it's sugar content.
I do love me some honey in moderation though, but it's nothing more than a harm reduction replacement for sugar rather than a healthy ingredient in of itself.
Edit: Well to be fair there might be some minor benefits to heart health and cognitive ability through caffeine but only insofar as you are drinking a healthy dose of coffee early in the morning so your body can filter out the cortisol build up. Because the big misnomer about coffee is that it's just the caffeine that keeps you up. That's true if you drink it too late but it also produces cortisol which if you know about anything is bad for well, literally all of your bodily processes at the point at which it causes you stress, anxiety and sleep deprivation. There are some people whose neuro-chemistry allows them to down 3-4 cups a day and sleep 8-9 hours but for the most part if your brain is still working past 10-11 AM then you've got too much cortisol in your system and it's time to cut down on booze and coffee.
drinking a healthy dose of coffee early in the morning so your body can filter out the cortisol build up.
what's this? I need to filter out cortisol when I wake up, and coffee helps with that? I am ignorant about physiology
The opposite, coffee gives you more cortisol and it takes much longer to process than caffeine (3-4 hours, 5 hours max) so if you drink any coffee past like 11am then you're likely going to carry some of that cortisol into the night
and it takes much longer to process than caffeine (3-4 hours, 5 hours max)
isn't that how long caffeine lasts? how long does it take to process cortisol?
Well yeah, caffeine stays in the body for roughly 3-5 hours.
I'll admit that I don't really have as scientifically accurate numbers for cortisol other than that in my personal experience it stays much longer and that it's accumulative. For example if I have coffee in the morning and booze at night I know I wont sleep, but if I have only one of those during the day I'll probably be fine
I couldn't write better satire of major news outlets vis a vis scientific understanding if I tried. We found out people who drink one glass of wine for dinner every day live longer and because we're all very, very stupid and entirely unable to question anything that means the only conclusion is that 1 glass of wine is good for you. Bottoms up, folks.
i remember reading a textbook 5 years ago that explained how these exact studies were flawed. i think it was medical sociology. NYT is acting like this is a new discovery. maybe they would have published this article a decade ago if anyone at the NYT had an ounce of understanding of literally anything. watch as doctors still recommend a glass of wine with dinner for "heart health"
I need to stand like Superman to gain confidence before I shotgun this beer
i dont care im still getting wrecked every now and again :shrug-outta-hecks:
Somebody on this site once virulently argued with me about how drinking isn't bad for you lol I'm pretty sure it was a very young person who just really likes drinking and was in total denial about it being negative in any way.
I'm fine admitting it's bad for you, but I'll get in arguments against the teetotalers that are in our midst though when they get judgy about it
It's bad for you, but so is participating in industrial society. Drinking as a social event existed well before industrial society, so I say let's keep the booze and ditch the bourge
Boozegeoisie has just been staring me in the face this whole time and I never noticed it
The eternal "at what point does my temporary enjoyment turn into chronic discomfort" struggle of middle aged working stiffs.
Alcohol, weed, candy, coffee, my sedentary lifestyle... you name it, I'm in a balancing act over it.
Getting crunk off my badunkadunk on Kool-Aid laced with iocaine powder :jim-jones-shining:
