Anyone know where to find the yummy slop?

Also they're still tourturing Assange in Belmarsh and leaks still happen because we're a morally bankrupt piece of shit fascist loving genocidal fake democracy and no one honest can stomache it.

  • MF_COOM [he/him]
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    I don't get this - in what way are they not mainstream they're literally the main method people use to gather data. Corporate media is like the definition of mainstream.

    I don't care about the semantics honestly whatever if you prefer a different label, but you're approaching it like OP said something incorrect with the term MSM. If anything it's wrong to use "corporate media" as it excludes state media from bourgeois states like the BBC and CBC.

    • constellation [none/use name]
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      They're not mainstream. Who supports endless war? Nobody. But the media are on about it all the time. They're on it because their corporate masters order them to cover it. It doesn't make a profit, that's for sure.

      • GaveUp [she/her]
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        Who supports endless war? Nobody.

        48% of Americans in Ukraine https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/support-for-ukraine-aid-softens-in-u-s-public-poll-says

        73% of Americans in Iraq https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/03/14/a-look-back-at-how-fear-and-false-beliefs-bolstered-u-s-public-support-for-war-in-iraq/

        It is very mainstream, stop whitewashing people who are warmongers and imperialists

        • constellation [none/use name]
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          They're able to alter people's thoughts with their propaganda. Don't fall for it.

          If you stop calling them mainstream, people will realize that what they are: major corporations. Be the change you want to see in the world.

        • WalterBongjammin [they/them,comrade/them]
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          'All over the world, wherever there are capitalists, freedom of the press means freedom to buy up newspapers, to buy writers, to bribe, buy and fake “public opinion” for the benefit of the bourgeoisie'. - Lenin

          In my opinion, a Marxist approach to the media in capitalist societies should focus upon how the culture industry produces the individual's views rather than upon the individuals that come to hold them. Americans' knowledge of Iraq and Ukraine are almost entirely produced through their exposure to the capitalist press, so inevitably they are going to reflect the interests of American capitalists, i.e. be imperialist in nature. I'm not saying that the mainstream in America isn't warmongering and imperialism, just that approaching that problem from a perspective of individual moral failure means reproducing the same liberal culture we're trying to escape and destroy

      • MF_COOM [he/him]
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        I think the thing that's not mainstream is that interpretation of what the MSM represents. Unfortunately a lot of people have aligned worldviews with MSM and wishing doesn't make that not so

    • WalterBongjammin [they/them,comrade/them]
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      I think calling it corporate media is more useful than mainstream, because it allows the role of the media in capitalist society to be made explicit. From a Marxist perspective the distinction between the BBC and CNN isn't that important, because the BBC is the state media of a capitalist state and thus serves the ends of capital in the same way as a corporate media company. You could just use the term 'capitalist media', but I think that would be more confusing to people who weren't already pretty radicalised