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Also they're still tourturing Assange in Belmarsh and leaks still happen because we're a morally bankrupt piece of shit fascist loving genocidal fake democracy and no one honest can stomache it.
Ummm proxy war? Sounds like a kremlin playbook dezinformatsiya KGB tactic to me.
Also, why can’t they show the documents? Aren’t journalists immune to the classified information shit? Well of course not, otherwise Snowden wouldn’t be in Russia. They’re only allowed report “classified” information using “insider” and “anonymous” sources. They’re not allowed to actually report and scrutinize the material if the CIA doesn’t intentionally leak it.
He actually said this on TV. He literally said, I know you've seen behind the curtain, and seen that the Wizard of Oz is actually this little con man from Kansas. But pretend you never saw that. In fact, it's illegal for you to have seen that. So if you can wipe your memory banks, we'll tell you what to think.
Ummm proxy war? Sounds like a kremlin playbook dezinformatsiya KGB tactic to me.
This almost word for word what the guardian reported yesterday.
Please stop calling them "MSM". They're not mainstream. They're far out of the mainstream.
Instead, please adopt the phrase "corporate media". It's what all the cool kids are calling them now, and don't you want to be with the "in" crowd?
+1 to this. If I have to hear one more ding dong say "it isn't capitalism's fault, it's corporatism!" I'm going to be grumpy.
yeah but i just asked my partner the monkey's paw demon and she said that in using capitalist media you have just caused media trust to go up by 7 points
she also said that using the term corporate media accelerates the trek towards the socialism or barbarism conundrum by 17% and dared you to wonder what the answer is
Guillotines. No matter the question, the answer is always Guillotines.
If they were capitalist, they would be concerned with making a profit.
They're not, the corporate media is a loss-leader for other, more important goals.
I weakly disagree. It's media that promotes capitalism. It may not create private profits on its own, but it promotes private profit and capital accumulation in other spheres of the economy.
Many vital capitalist institutions don't directly turn profits, but serve instead to reify and reproduce certain behaviors and relations while denigrating alternatives
I don't get this - in what way are they not mainstream they're literally the main method people use to gather data. Corporate media is like the definition of mainstream.
I don't care about the semantics honestly whatever if you prefer a different label, but you're approaching it like OP said something incorrect with the term MSM. If anything it's wrong to use "corporate media" as it excludes state media from bourgeois states like the BBC and CBC.
They're not mainstream. Who supports endless war? Nobody. But the media are on about it all the time. They're on it because their corporate masters order them to cover it. It doesn't make a profit, that's for sure.
Who supports endless war? Nobody.
48% of Americans in Ukraine https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/support-for-ukraine-aid-softens-in-u-s-public-poll-says
73% of Americans in Iraq https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/03/14/a-look-back-at-how-fear-and-false-beliefs-bolstered-u-s-public-support-for-war-in-iraq/
It is very mainstream, stop whitewashing people who are warmongers and imperialists
They're able to alter people's thoughts with their propaganda. Don't fall for it.
If you stop calling them mainstream, people will realize that what they are: major corporations. Be the change you want to see in the world.
'All over the world, wherever there are capitalists, freedom of the press means freedom to buy up newspapers, to buy writers, to bribe, buy and fake “public opinion” for the benefit of the bourgeoisie'. - Lenin
In my opinion, a Marxist approach to the media in capitalist societies should focus upon how the culture industry produces the individual's views rather than upon the individuals that come to hold them. Americans' knowledge of Iraq and Ukraine are almost entirely produced through their exposure to the capitalist press, so inevitably they are going to reflect the interests of American capitalists, i.e. be imperialist in nature. I'm not saying that the mainstream in America isn't warmongering and imperialism, just that approaching that problem from a perspective of individual moral failure means reproducing the same liberal culture we're trying to escape and destroy
I think the thing that's not mainstream is that interpretation of what the MSM represents. Unfortunately a lot of people have aligned worldviews with MSM and wishing doesn't make that not so
I think calling it corporate media is more useful than mainstream, because it allows the role of the media in capitalist society to be made explicit. From a Marxist perspective the distinction between the BBC and CNN isn't that important, because the BBC is the state media of a capitalist state and thus serves the ends of capital in the same way as a corporate media company. You could just use the term 'capitalist media', but I think that would be more confusing to people who weren't already pretty radicalised
They turned up, like most of the internet's detritus , on 4ch*n and on a Minecraft Discord lol
Where are the actual documents?
The leak had to come from a high-level insider who is having a power struggle with a pro-Ukraine faction. That's usually the case with these. Heck, Clapper was straight up releasing classified info to corporate media during his struggle with Trump.
Anyone know where to find the yummy slop?
Related to FIN (Finland), UKR (Ukraine), FVEY (Five Eyes), NATO (Nazis Are Talking Over)
Printed Feb 23. The Finland joining NATO was a key part of this so called offensive plan. It was already decided at the beginning of the year. I hope Finland's citizens appreciate how recklessly it's leadership threw them under.
I hope Finland’s citizens appreciate how recklessly it’s leadership threw them under.
Most people here were absolutely fiending for the NATO membership. :deeper-sadness:
Pining for another march into Karelia, I see. Rebuild the concentration camps for the ethnic Rus who are squatting on perfectly good land that deserves to be part of Greater Finland!
The Finno-Ugric skull shape yearns to ally itself with nazis time and time again
Some stuff here https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1644138707216130050 full files are probably on the chans
If the ratio of infantry losses in the undoctored document isn't wrong by at least a factor of 2 I'll buy a hat just to eat it.
