Hasan talking the way he does, with the kind of platform he has, is a huge win for the left. In general I have very little patience for leftist infighting and purity testing, especially when it feels like comrades are looking for a reason to wholesale dismiss other comrades' efforts in agitating and propagandizing.
The kind of rigorous criticism and struggle sessions we have on this site could be useful if we were all in a vanguard party, but when talking to mostly anonymous strangers on the web it comes across as a LARP. I've still found it helpful in constructing a more robust ideological framework for myself, but I recognize that absent a larger political movement with concrete tangible goals, this is little better than individualist self-help bullshit. It's fine tuning a car with no wheels.
Hasan is to the left of 95% of the US population. If people wanna say he's bad because he's not saluting to Stalin at the start of every stream, I can't be bothered arguing with them.
that chatter is textbook “i’m mad somebody is to my left”
As a propogandist he' s a net positive for american political culture. However you won't ever find me praising him since he is an open john and exploiter of woman
which tbh I would be fine with if he frame it as "I did a bad thing when I was younger and as a Marxist I can look back and say that I was sexually exploiting woman in a vulnerable condition" and not "actually sex work is super cool and being a cumsumer is awesome"
Oh yeah I did know he visited a brothel once and have mixed opinions about that but I defer to women ideally sex workers themselves. Hasan is borderline misogynistic sometimes but seems mostly like a good hearted but kinda dumb guy and I think his impact is broadly positive.
I mean if you're super into watching someone read twitter and get performatively angry at whatever the political class did or failed to do this week, then go ahead, go nuts on Hasan's stream.
He is an entertainer first and foremost. So with that in mind, he’s above the average cast of streamers in terms of views and sometimes content.
But don’t rely on him for anything other than laughs. These streamers’ commentary and coverage of the news is just googling things and learning about them live on air and then forming some half assed opinion that should’ve been thought out more.
I don’t know what he’s like in private and that’s not really my concern. He’s rich which I really don’t care about, but there have been a few times where he flaunted his opulence which annoyed me because it just seems out of touch. But that’s not who he is regularly so again, I don’t care
This isn’t a statement on him, but I do know someone who works at Lockheed who loves Hasan and dismisses that he’s a socialist or even leftist lol
he's cable news that isn't actively bad for your brain because he's doing the work for you of getting angry at fascists doing fash things, and he covers stuff that doesn't get covered in the mainstream a lot.
he's good, but people who unironically have twitter accounts and see posts about him all day have decided that he is DESTROYING THE LEFT and will accuse you of being parasocially gay for him if you don't think he's that important
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good but he's not a replacement for theory
you cannot run a revolution on thirst alone
No, but you can sure as shit watch me try!
His work - reaching thousands and normalising leftist politics - is good.
He's like really good... for a Twitch streamer
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I was mostly joking.
Hasan talking the way he does, with the kind of platform he has, is a huge win for the left. In general I have very little patience for leftist infighting and purity testing, especially when it feels like comrades are looking for a reason to wholesale dismiss other comrades' efforts in agitating and propagandizing.
The kind of rigorous criticism and struggle sessions we have on this site could be useful if we were all in a vanguard party, but when talking to mostly anonymous strangers on the web it comes across as a LARP. I've still found it helpful in constructing a more robust ideological framework for myself, but I recognize that absent a larger political movement with concrete tangible goals, this is little better than individualist self-help bullshit. It's fine tuning a car with no wheels.
What all theory and no practice does to a mf
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Hasan good but Hasanism bad.
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Don’t ask me what what means. I just made it up.
Hasan is to the left of 95% of the US population. If people wanna say he's bad because he's not saluting to Stalin at the start of every stream, I can't be bothered arguing with them.
OK but he should at least be saluting Kim
He's good for baby leftists. But as your theory and praxis grow, so should your taste.
Hasan's a bit like Bernie in that aspect.
He's way to the left of Bernie, but you're absolutely right about the rest.
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As a propogandist he' s a net positive for american political culture. However you won't ever find me praising him since he is an open john and exploiter of woman
I'm dumb here what does being a John mean? And how has he exploited women? Not being argumentative just not a thing knower.
John is a common slang word for a sex worker's client.
I've not heard anything about this, but if true it's major :kombucha-disgust:
He went to a brothel when he was 19 iirc
which tbh I would be fine with if he frame it as "I did a bad thing when I was younger and as a Marxist I can look back and say that I was sexually exploiting woman in a vulnerable condition" and not "actually sex work is super cool and being a cumsumer is awesome"
"John" is a term that's used to describe someone who has consumed full service sex work (paid a prostitute for sex)
Oh yeah I did know he visited a brothel once and have mixed opinions about that but I defer to women ideally sex workers themselves. Hasan is borderline misogynistic sometimes but seems mostly like a good hearted but kinda dumb guy and I think his impact is broadly positive.
I mean if you're super into watching someone read twitter and get performatively angry at whatever the political class did or failed to do this week, then go ahead, go nuts on Hasan's stream.
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Chapo is more like a friendship simulator though because it's three fellas hanging out together
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He is like Myspace Tom, your only friend in your myspace profile
good. he reaches soooo many people.
but like its an entertainment twitch stream don't try to squeeze more out of it than there is
He is an entertainer first and foremost. So with that in mind, he’s above the average cast of streamers in terms of views and sometimes content.
But don’t rely on him for anything other than laughs. These streamers’ commentary and coverage of the news is just googling things and learning about them live on air and then forming some half assed opinion that should’ve been thought out more.
I don’t know what he’s like in private and that’s not really my concern. He’s rich which I really don’t care about, but there have been a few times where he flaunted his opulence which annoyed me because it just seems out of touch. But that’s not who he is regularly so again, I don’t care
This isn’t a statement on him, but I do know someone who works at Lockheed who loves Hasan and dismisses that he’s a socialist or even leftist lol
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he's cable news that isn't actively bad for your brain because he's doing the work for you of getting angry at fascists doing fash things, and he covers stuff that doesn't get covered in the mainstream a lot.
he's good, but people who unironically have twitter accounts and see posts about him all day have decided that he is DESTROYING THE LEFT and will accuse you of being parasocially gay for him if you don't think he's that important