you seem to be under the impression that describing what calvinism is and denouncing the crimes of the international conservative evangelical movement and those of megachurches is, somehow, at odds with denouncing the crimes of, say, the roman catholic church. I think it's rather telling that you equated the neopentecostals with 'protestantism in general', as they are definitely not the same beasts. catholic churches will still have abetted genocide in canada, even as people are impoverished worldwide by evangelical preaching. the catholic church will remain a force against reproductive rights even as my country and the rest of latin america continue to reel under american evangelical propaganda and the afterglow of the jakarta method.
the fact is that the calvinist megachurches exist in a bubble of cognitive dissonance from christianity as a whole. knowing and facing that enemy is important, for no reason other than the fact that quite frankly as a third world leftist I consider american style evangelicals an existential threat while catholic ultras are at best defanged and marginalized. the catholic church around where i live is a bunch of social workers, even as the catholic church in america is indistinguishable from the evangelicals.
I'll be quite honest with you, it's rather insulting that you think I am operating under 'an idealistic version of Christianity' which I invented. I have literally just accused the Catholic Church of genocide. And your response is to further accuse me of a mixture of delusion and denialism. This is clownish behavior.
Do you make it a habit of going to other people's countries and giving them lectures about their own lives? Do you seriously, honestly believe, you know more than me about the history and the participation of churches in the junta governments that were imposed on my own country? Do you genuinely, genuinely believe I need you to let me know the slavery was a thing, and that it was supported by the church? I've been to the mass graves, I've been to the slave pens, I've read all the bile in the most evil historical sources you can imagine. I don't need your help and I don't care what twitter threads you've been reading. I don't see leftists rushing to defend canadian catholic schools. And even if they were, none of what your projected onto me was warranted.
I have made a specific point about a specific aspect of a specific international reactionary movement's theology. And you've done nothing but label me with an entire worldview and personality about all the things you don't know about me.
I’ll be quite honest with you, I think that looking at the actions of the catholic church and reducing their role to that of social workers in the current context of the third world is something that shouldn’t exist outside of really on the nose satire
It's amazing. You just keep going. I said three things about the Catholic Church:
I accused them of genocide
I accused them of being a force against reproductive rights
And I said that I personally currently perceive them as a defanged enemy in relation to other reactionary religious movements in my area of the world .
And you've chosen the single most selective and uncharitable interpretation possible. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with you and frankly I don't care. But I'm gonna ask you again to stop engaging with me. Find someone else to lecture about things you don't know and don't understand.
Yeah, right now the reactionary movement in my country is headed by the Calvinists. The Catholics are the ones mobilizing for the center left. The world is big, nuanced and complicated. Deal with it and fuck off somewhere else.
you seem to be under the impression that describing what calvinism is and denouncing the crimes of the international conservative evangelical movement and those of megachurches is, somehow, at odds with denouncing the crimes of, say, the roman catholic church. I think it's rather telling that you equated the neopentecostals with 'protestantism in general', as they are definitely not the same beasts. catholic churches will still have abetted genocide in canada, even as people are impoverished worldwide by evangelical preaching. the catholic church will remain a force against reproductive rights even as my country and the rest of latin america continue to reel under american evangelical propaganda and the afterglow of the jakarta method.
the fact is that the calvinist megachurches exist in a bubble of cognitive dissonance from christianity as a whole. knowing and facing that enemy is important, for no reason other than the fact that quite frankly as a third world leftist I consider american style evangelicals an existential threat while catholic ultras are at best defanged and marginalized. the catholic church around where i live is a bunch of social workers, even as the catholic church in america is indistinguishable from the evangelicals.
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I'll be quite honest with you, it's rather insulting that you think I am operating under 'an idealistic version of Christianity' which I invented. I have literally just accused the Catholic Church of genocide. And your response is to further accuse me of a mixture of delusion and denialism. This is clownish behavior.
Do you make it a habit of going to other people's countries and giving them lectures about their own lives? Do you seriously, honestly believe, you know more than me about the history and the participation of churches in the junta governments that were imposed on my own country? Do you genuinely, genuinely believe I need you to let me know the slavery was a thing, and that it was supported by the church? I've been to the mass graves, I've been to the slave pens, I've read all the bile in the most evil historical sources you can imagine. I don't need your help and I don't care what twitter threads you've been reading. I don't see leftists rushing to defend canadian catholic schools. And even if they were, none of what your projected onto me was warranted.
I have made a specific point about a specific aspect of a specific international reactionary movement's theology. And you've done nothing but label me with an entire worldview and personality about all the things you don't know about me.
Fuck off.
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It's amazing. You just keep going. I said three things about the Catholic Church:
I accused them of genocide
I accused them of being a force against reproductive rights
And I said that I personally currently perceive them as a defanged enemy in relation to other reactionary religious movements in my area of the world .
And you've chosen the single most selective and uncharitable interpretation possible. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with you and frankly I don't care. But I'm gonna ask you again to stop engaging with me. Find someone else to lecture about things you don't know and don't understand.
Yeah, right now the reactionary movement in my country is headed by the Calvinists. The Catholics are the ones mobilizing for the center left. The world is big, nuanced and complicated. Deal with it and fuck off somewhere else.
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