https://old.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/12hsred/which_countries_would_citizens_of_the_us_uk/
some great stuff here, but this one is my favorite:
As a Canadian, I sympathize with Americans in this thread who may feel resentful. But pro-tip guys — if you want to understand why Germans feel this way, don’t downvote the Germans telling you why they feel this way.
[in reply] They're being downvoted because their reasons are bullshit and ignorant exceptionalist propaganda. Theyre also coming across as ungrateful dependent children, especially given the current circumstances that the US is currently ONCE AGAIN taking responsibility for a war on their continent that they caused. Admittedly, they caused it indirectly this time, through irresponsibly linking their energy economy inextricably to a rogue, imperialist petrostate, rather than through the genocide that's their usual schtick.
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I'm assuming this is a copypaste of a reddit post; it oozes reddit. The hyperlinks and bullet points laid out to establish the poster as The Adult in the Room to us plebians, but through blind patriotic arrogance, entirely misses that Europeans resent America for it's warmongering, it's ambivalence to the UN, and expectation of all NATO nations to play ball in America's wars (on their continent) while their own material conditions get worse
Maybe it's my Reddit brain that hasn't fully recovered.
Oh come on, they've resented us for decades. Ever since the adults in the room stopped them from being fascists like they really wanted. They've never forgiven us for "saving" them from Naziism.
Europeans have fantastic material conditions. They can afford to spend generously on a welfare state because America subsidizes them. And why the fuck do we give ten or eleven figures every year to wealthy first-world nations?
We need to grant their requests and pull our troops out of there. Stop the occupation, it's been 80 years already, when were we planning on leaving? NATO was intended as a defensive alliance. Last three NATO wars were the offensive invasion of Afghanistan, offensive invasion of Libya and the proxy war in Ukraine. All unmitigated disasters. All we get in return is condescension from the intellectuals and commercial exploitation by the competitors that the "global order" has created.
NATO being defensive has never been anything but propaganda. It was explicitly founded to combat socialist influence in Europe. It has always been about securing the interests of imperialist capitalist. What it does today is the same shit it has always done.
Giving the US credit for saving Europe from naziism is kinda weird. By far the biggest contributor to allied victory in WWII were the Soviets and the Red Army.
they're a patsoc
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I guess that explains the weird-ass phrases and word choices
Who is going to invade europe if amerca stops "subsidizing" them? Countries like iran spend a smaller percentage of theur economy in their military than your average europen nation. And they are contantly under threat. I would argue it is actually the europeans proping up the american military industry.