The United States would have nuked the USSR if he tried.
That period between the the Trinity tests and the first successful Soviet bomb was insane. It wasn't just the military and government, either. Citizens were enthusiastically talking about using nukes, the press called for it with any and every geopolitical development.
Considering Truman sucked, I think he would have gotten the US into another war in Europe regardless of the opinion of the people. Popular opinion didn't stop the US in other countries.
Yeah every time I see that posted, I know it its just an edgy thing to say, but I can't help but just wonder if they wanted Stalin to cause the USSR to get nuked. Hell it took a decade or more for the USSR to even catch up with the USA in terms of a nuclear stock pile.
It's a flippant way to say that you're upset or outraged or just exhausted by the behavior of something done by Europe. It's not intended to be taken as a serious statement. I think most people understand that the Red Army was exhausted and that the political, logistical, and most importantly social situation called for an end to hostilities.
Yeah what kind of sucks about WW2 is that the only way I see things going better for the Soviets is if the British and French take the Nazi threat more seriously and actually do things like put the Red Army on the Polish/German border in 1937. Considering the hand that was dealt to them I don't think that the Soviets could have done anything better, which is tragic because the casualties inflicted both on the Soviet people and on Soviet society by World War II were IMO the principle reason the whole experiment collapsed in the end.
Apparently (according to the American ambassador to the USSR) Stalin said to the American ambassador, when the latter asked him whether he was proud that the Soviet army got to Berlin, that 'Tsar Alexander got to Paris'. Honestly I also suspected that that was some anti-soviet propaganda bullshit to support the notion that the Soviets wanted to cast an imperial blanket over all Europe and so the US had to step in to defend it. And even if it was actually said it was definitely a joke.
But have you considered that interet warriors in 2023 may know more about military strategy than one of the greatest statemen of the 20th century who'd just gone through the most destructive conflict in history?
I'm not sure Stalin could have gone beyond Berlin.
The United States would have nuked the USSR if he tried.
That period between the the Trinity tests and the first successful Soviet bomb was insane. It wasn't just the military and government, either. Citizens were enthusiastically talking about using nukes, the press called for it with any and every geopolitical development.
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Considering Truman sucked, I think he would have gotten the US into another war in Europe regardless of the opinion of the people. Popular opinion didn't stop the US in other countries.
Yeah every time I see that posted, I know it its just an edgy thing to say, but I can't help but just wonder if they wanted Stalin to cause the USSR to get nuked. Hell it took a decade or more for the USSR to even catch up with the USA in terms of a nuclear stock pile.
It's a flippant way to say that you're upset or outraged or just exhausted by the behavior of something done by Europe. It's not intended to be taken as a serious statement. I think most people understand that the Red Army was exhausted and that the political, logistical, and most importantly social situation called for an end to hostilities.
Vijay Prashad agrees
From Washington Bullets: https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/me5J2H0HaJ.png
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i love quoting objetively correct Prashad takes at westerners because most western lefties who know of him just see him as some wack 'tankie' lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsqE9kEsDVY
Yeah what kind of sucks about WW2 is that the only way I see things going better for the Soviets is if the British and French take the Nazi threat more seriously and actually do things like put the Red Army on the Polish/German border in 1937. Considering the hand that was dealt to them I don't think that the Soviets could have done anything better, which is tragic because the casualties inflicted both on the Soviet people and on Soviet society by World War II were IMO the principle reason the whole experiment collapsed in the end.
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All of western europe doing surprised pikachu when the whermacht blitzed the Magino Line.
The spiciest take (but sadly probably true)
Is that not normally a joke?
Apparently (according to the American ambassador to the USSR) Stalin said to the American ambassador, when the latter asked him whether he was proud that the Soviet army got to Berlin, that 'Tsar Alexander got to Paris'. Honestly I also suspected that that was some anti-soviet propaganda bullshit to support the notion that the Soviets wanted to cast an imperial blanket over all Europe and so the US had to step in to defend it. And even if it was actually said it was definitely a joke.
But have you considered that interet warriors in 2023 may know more about military strategy than one of the greatest statemen of the 20th century who'd just gone through the most destructive conflict in history?