as an aside in the latest Trillbillies episode Terrence said that we need degrowth communism and it got me wondering what that means to everyone. to hopefully stifle any silly debates i'll clarify that i'm talking about the West, not underdeveloped/overexploited nations in the Global South.

an end to oil drilling, gas extraction, and coal mining will obviously be necessary to stop climate change. how much modern technology can we replicate without relying on those things or other ecologically violent resource extraction? what does an agriculture system that doesn't rely on petrochem-derived fertilizers and herbicides look like? how do we repair the immense damage that's already been done?

i'd really appreciate some book recommendations on this topic as well as everyone's thoughts

  • Dolores [love/loves]
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    if you think about how much of the economy in the imperial core is bullshit degrowth becomes much easier to imagine.

      • Dolores [love/loves]
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        6 months ago

        scammers, speculators, rentiers, consultants, crypto, ai, marketing, propagandists, surveillance, weapons development... i feel like we could go on for an hour

        ooth 'email jobs' just describe an environment work takes place in, some people in cubicle email jobs are involved in pro-social work, i assume.

          • Dolores [love/loves]
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            6 months ago

            on the contrary, liquidating marketers would net the largest decrease in hot air ever seen garf-troll

            emissions are half the equation tho, GDP counts these things and decoupling the idea GDP & the per capita to actual living standards is important for a degrowth conversation. no humans would hurt from the billions lost in 'value' in marketing

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          • SuperZutsuki [they/them]
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            6 months ago

            Eliminating completely useless sectors frees those people to do things that are actually beneficial to society

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        But they also don't produce rail, solar panels, food, housing, or clean water. They're completely bullshit jobs that exist to keep the proletariat from having the time and energy to revolt.

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