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  • KnockYourSocksOff [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    My coworkers tell me that they find Asian guys hot. That is, if you’re 6’2, have paper white skin, and look like a kpop idol

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      As degrading as that is, it's actually an improvement from the previous mainstream stance of "Ewww, no."

      At least your coworkers are capable of acknowledging that Asian men can be tall and attractive instead of universally short scrawny nerds.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I always found the "Asian men are unnatractive/sexuless/whatever" thing utterly bizarre. How does normative racism like that even get started?

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          At the risk of sounding like a "representation matters" lib, there's basically zero depiction of Asian men in westoid media as positive role models or attractive partners. Even today it's incredibly rare to see any movies or TV with Asian male protagonists, and the Asian guy "getting the girl" is practically non-existent.

          Add onto that a consistent trend of emasculated Asian men as weak, short, and feminine. This is not unlike how a lot of media and people still think of black women as aggressive and over masculine, at least to my understanding and hearing it from a few black women.

          Lastly, there's still this idea that sexual racism is acceptable. Like if someone says "I don't want to date <race>" it's still broadly seen as a legitimate personal choice. Compare with someone saying "I don't want to work with <race>" or "I don't want to be friends with <race>".

          • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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            2 years ago

            Representation does matter; it’s just very much not everything. If we had FALGSC but only white people are allowed on TV that would still be bad

      • KnockYourSocksOff [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        See, I’d see the silver lining if it was just other groups of people but in my experience Asian girls also tend to think they way too so it’s just :kaneki:

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          A chunk of any population, Asian or not, male or female or other, have that kind of mentality though. Everyone wants their 6'2 bodybuilder surgeon boyfriend or their D cup supermodel gamer girl or whatever. The people who get over that shit go on to live happy lives, the ones who don't are the ones who live bitter and lonely lives.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I'm my defense I am 6'2" and the idea of a 6'+ lady doctor person sweeping me off my feet and taking me away from all this is what I think about when I'm crying myself to sleep every night.

            Idk everyone thinks being really tall is really cool, and it is in a lot of ways, but you'll also go most of your life without being able to stand with your heels on the ground and look your lover in their eyes. It might not seem like much, it might not be something anyone else worries about, but it makes me a little sad sometimes. There's a lot of tall privilege, a huge amount, but you're also fundamentally different from everyone around you. Being a foot taller than everyone else means your ears are above them and you can't follow conversations in noisy venues. You have to bend over or lift someone up to kiss them. People make all kinds of assumptions about you because a tall man must be confident, informed, dominant, and dangerous, Right? Right?

            I keep ending up in charge of stuff just by virtue of being a man and the tallest person in the room. It feels cool for a while until you really start to think about what it means about how people view each other, how they conceptualize gender and human bodies. The whole "short kings" thing is, like... just holy shit? Being shorter doesn't make a man any less capable or attractive or present, or at least it shouldn't. But for many people it does and once you're aware of that you have to look at people around you differently because if they'll dismiss someone because they're shorter than average, and esteem people who are taller than average, what other nonsensical and prejudicial views do they hold?

            Uft. Sorry for the rant, I just haven't thought about this in a while. But it's been a current throughout my life.

            • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              As a tall Asian dude I know exactly what you're talking about. Still, people have irrational preferences without really thinking about it.

              I think it's really common for men to say they want a gf with large breasts, for example, and few dudes really consider the practical implications.

              • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Totally. These days the first thing I think when I see someone with really big breasts is "oof, back pain".

                I used to do a ton of sword fighting and everyone with boobs was constantly exchanging advice about the latest sports bras and which ones were actually supportive nad which ones were trash.

            • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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              2 years ago

              Yeah I’m 6’3” and while I don’t think I’d want to give up any of my height sometimes I see pictures of me with a group and I’m just like “Jesus Christ I’m a head and shoulders taller than everyone else”

              Being a foot taller than everyone else means your ears are above them and you can’t follow conversations in noisy venues.

              Wait, short people can follow conversations in crowded places??? :scared: Now that I think about it that tracks but I never thought about that one.

              I keep ending up in charge of stuff just by virtue of being a man and the tallest person in the room.

              No fr wtf is up with that. It happens all the time. I’ll be one of the least experienced people in the room and people will still look to me like I should know what’s going on.

              • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                2 years ago

                When I have a woman or any afab person or a shorter person as my supervisor or manager I always stand behind them and very pointedly differ to them when customers inevitably direct questions to me. Otherwise people will just assume I know what's going on and it's like "dude i am wage labor, they literally have a masters in forestry I just move stuff around"