being emasculated and dehumanized only affects asian manosphere insofar as they remain incapable of assimilating into whiteness (and its corresponding sexual benefits/social status) as easily as their female counterparts
masculinity is just a number to them, they have no conception of what it is outside of a quantitative (and overwhelmingly western) context
In my experience at least, the manosphere guys are most likely to reject assimilation into whiteness as a misguided relic of their parents' attitudes.
I would characterize the mainstream Asian diaspora view of keeping your head down, working doubly hard to overcome discrimination, and then getting a wife through vague means after that as far more assimilationist.
Like yeah, it could be the outcome of sour grapes in a MGTOW sense but there's also the case where any Asian man who is outspokenly against white supremacist structures in dating is labeled by boba libs as an "MRAsian" so I don't think it helps to be reductive like this.
my take on assimilation into whiteness is more along the lines of consciously shaping aspects of one's life to correlate with the white narrative that promises sex, power and success by default.
the narrative falls apart upon contact with reality and the result is that asian dudes end up in the manosphere next to the incels wondering what went wrong, difference being that asian manosphere thinks that they can tick boxes off a checklist and sigma grindset their way out of sexual emasculation. unfortunately, the checklist that they're using is still part of the white narrative that they by definition cannot belong to.
i can understand why the discourse around the situation might be upsetting and call for a more delicate touch than mine. maybe it's because i'm not really on twitter, but i just can't see the boba libs as people, so their opinions don't really carry any weight with me.
You don’t think being emasculated and dehumanized for centuries has any affect on the perception of Asian men?
being emasculated and dehumanized only affects asian manosphere insofar as they remain incapable of assimilating into whiteness (and its corresponding sexual benefits/social status) as easily as their female counterparts
masculinity is just a number to them, they have no conception of what it is outside of a quantitative (and overwhelmingly western) context
In my experience at least, the manosphere guys are most likely to reject assimilation into whiteness as a misguided relic of their parents' attitudes.
I would characterize the mainstream Asian diaspora view of keeping your head down, working doubly hard to overcome discrimination, and then getting a wife through vague means after that as far more assimilationist.
Like yeah, it could be the outcome of sour grapes in a MGTOW sense but there's also the case where any Asian man who is outspokenly against white supremacist structures in dating is labeled by boba libs as an "MRAsian" so I don't think it helps to be reductive like this.
my take on assimilation into whiteness is more along the lines of consciously shaping aspects of one's life to correlate with the white narrative that promises sex, power and success by default.
the narrative falls apart upon contact with reality and the result is that asian dudes end up in the manosphere next to the incels wondering what went wrong, difference being that asian manosphere thinks that they can tick boxes off a checklist and sigma grindset their way out of sexual emasculation. unfortunately, the checklist that they're using is still part of the white narrative that they by definition cannot belong to.
i can understand why the discourse around the situation might be upsetting and call for a more delicate touch than mine. maybe it's because i'm not really on twitter, but i just can't see the boba libs as people, so their opinions don't really carry any weight with me.