“Next year, America goes to the polls. Donald Trump is running for president while under criminal indictment,” interviewer Beth Rigby said. “This, the man who back in 2016 consistently accused you of law-breaking and actively encouraged chats of ‘lock her up,’ directed at you. It’s pretty ironic, isn’t it, that he’s now a former president that could face a jail term. How does it make you feel?”

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    The concentration camps for the poors (and trans people, and Muslims, and :us-foreign-policy: and "wokes" and...) would follow that brief spark of hilarity. I'm no longer in the mood to laugh about it.

    • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Buddy look around at the trajectory of the biden administration, that shit is coming from the American govt no matter what. This is you falling for electoralism dawg

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Buddy

        Buddy just because something is very bad doesn't mean it can't get even worse. This is you falling for fatalism dawg

        • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          I literally said it's going to get worse. It is getting worse anyway. We're not living under an administration where all of the things you are worried about did not already get materially worse. Trump wins, it gets worse. Neolib Dem, biden or other wins, it gets worse. There's no "if we elect the Democrat it won't get so bad" path here and Im astounded that after all I know you've witnessed and all I've seen you post your opinion still flips back to that position anyway

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            It's a tiresome false equivalence, and yes, fatalism, to claim that a horrible administration is already rock bottom and nothing can, will, or even could change for the worse. It didn't help that it started in a condescending "buddy, dawg" dunk.

            Believe what you will, but I'm done with this reply chain.

              • MerryChristmas [any]
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                1 year ago

                Can we all just chill? Clearly y'all have different communication styles and that is okay.

                • DoghouseCharlie [he/him, comrade/them]
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                  1 year ago

                  I'm not your buddy, pal, and I'm not your pal, friend!
                  I dunno though. Maybe Biden or Clinton would do all the same bad things but more slowly and less openly. Or maybe they would just be more competent and therefore worse. If Trump wins then certain people might feel like now is the time to ramp up the fascism. Or maybe Trump loosing would actually cause a much more destructive backlash. So while I get the desperate want to have some kind of harm reduction I feel very pessimistic and I don't want to just shrug and say fatalism is the answer but the idea that a Clinton or Biden would be better angers me.

                  We're all scared and unsure of how things will pan out so if I'm wrong or a dork I don't mind discussing it but I don't wanna be mean to people on here since we're pretty much all on the same side (except for the cat thing).

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah it's not great.

      On the other hand Clinton would probably do more damage outside the US (She'd invade Atlantis for oil if she thought it existed.) Trump's one silver lining was his ineffectual flailing at Foreign Policy.

      I think US citizens should absolutely not hope for a Trump win, or think there's no difference. But really it's a dark choice if we do get Hillary vs Trump.