I don't see any good future for my current country(India) due to many different problems.

I don't have any motivation to continue living in this country and want to move to a developed country to have a decent Quality of Life at least. I am considering some countries in Europe because they align with what I want for a better QoL.

I am blacklisting war torn countries like the US. Also east Asia is lower priority because the work culture is as shit as India.

What country should I try to move to?

  • jackmarxist [any]
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    2 years ago

    I'd rather avoid countries with at least 10 mass shootings occurring everyday.

    Ireland is a decent option tho

    • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Ireland isn't easy to immigrate to I would say. Its certainly possible but its one of the most expensive countries in the EU to live in, rents and the cost of living are through the roof. If you're looking at Dublin or any other Irish city as an immigrant, you'll need to have a high-paying job lined up for you. Its a bit more manageable to survive off of a minimum wage in the countryside, but opportunities will be limited and public transport is near non-existant.

      I'm not trying to discourage you, and of course there is no country where its easy to be an immigrant, just letting you know the main obstacles. On the bright side, racism in Ireland is relatively low compared to Europe and the US, there's a growing working class movement and its pretty safe.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      There are about 4 more murders per 100,000 people per year in the US than in India. The 24/7 news cycle here pumps up the most outrageous and sensational events to drive engagement and get ad dollars. A tiny, tiny fraction of all murders in the US, firearms or otherwise, are "mass shootings". Most of them are people killing or being killed in the course of petty crimes, and over 90% of them involve hand guns.

      Yeah, it sucks here. Most people have heard gun shots in their city, sometimes pretty frequently. But the media presentation of gun violence in the US is a very deliberate, drastic distortion of what's actually happening to sell ad minutes.

      • mar_k [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I mean, you're still like 50% more likely to be murdered in the US than India, 3x more likely to be murdered in the US than in Canada, 5x more likely than in France, 8x more likely than in Germany, etc.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          You just saved us all from having to read the classic 1954 informative book "How to lie with statistics".

          God preserve us from the *maths some math* .00008% chance of being murdered in the US every year.

          • mar_k [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I'm just basing it off this, if you have reason to say these statistics are wrong I'll hear it out though

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Germany - 0.0000093% chance of being murdered every year

              USA - .00008%

              It's a bigger number, but it's still a very small number.

              • mar_k [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                I think you mathed wrong and added a couple zeroes, it's 6.5/100k which is 0.0065%

                % chance of being murdered every year: 0.0065% for Americans, 0.0008% for Germans

                In easier to read numbers: 1 in ~15,000 Americans killed a year, 1 in 125,000 Germans killed a year

                Your chances of being killed across 70 years: 1 in 220 Americans, 1 in 1785 Germans

                So there's about a half a percent chance the average American will be murdered in their life

                If you still think that's something we should trivialize, think about the chance of knowing someone that got murdered. Let's say the average person has 20 close or relatively close friends/family members throughout their life: 1 in 11 Americans will know someone relatively close that got murdered in their life, compared to 1 in 90 Germans

                I know someone who's had a couple friends killed, it's something that would shock white people who grew up in relatively decent areas. Ofc I don't agree with how the media fear mongers crime rates, because their only solution is to either bring more cops in or take guns away from marginalized people, but you can't deny crime is bad in many parts of the country. The American state loves to perpetuate crime in poor and black communities.

        • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I think where you are specifically living in the US matters. Indians can only immigrate to the US for studies or work and will probably be in a safer area due to that.

          If you consider air pollution and traffic violence I think moving out of Mumbai was the safer choice for me