No hope? Have you seen the French recently? That's the most bloomer shit in a while.

There is absolutely hope and it is absolutely possible, our opponent is just so utterly massive that it seems overwhelming.

That does not mean you should not try. All we can do is put in the work, every day, and move forwards. If we don't achieve it others will build on our work, they too will do the work every day and move it slightly further forwards. Eventually it will get there.

Nah mate, you can do immense good by organizing where you live. What you probably wont be able to do is beat imperialism from the inside, but a lot of desperate people in your country need you

there's really not hope of organizing a left movement in the imperial core

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Lenin, in January 1917:

We of the older generation may not live to see the decisive battles of this coming revolution. But I can, I believe, express the confident hope that the youth which is working so splendidly in the socialist movement of Switzerland, and of the whole world, will be fortunate enough not only to fight, but also to win, in the coming proletarian revolution.

Amusingly enough, earlier in the speech he mocked this dude:

“There is not yet a revolutionary people in Russia,” wrote Mr. Pyotr Struve, then leader of the Russian liberals and publisher abroad of an illegal, uncensored organ, two days before “Bloody Sunday”.

China has 1.4 billion people. They don't need you. If you move to China, it should primarily be due to a different reason than "building socialism."

Organize where you are. We need to build the pre-pre-conditions of revolution.

Unionize your workplace, do volunteer work, pass out food. Stuff like that. Not everything has to be explicitly about organizing revolution, you can also try to keep working and impoverished people alive and on our side. So maybe someday when conditions are better for left mobilizing, we'll have a base already

The largest left movement the US ever saw was near the height of its imperial ambition in the 60s and early 70s. Just because it's challenging and Americans are stubborn and lumpen as rocks doesn't mean we shouldn't fight.

Do things for people in your local area. I mean, like, outside your door and in your neighborhood, even. Especially if/when things get significantly worse, you'll want more allies around and they will want you too.

The lack of revolutionary potential among largely :lmayo: settlers does not make organizing pointless, it means you need to set your goals differently and adopt organizing approaches that take that fact into account.

You also want to pay attention to shifting conditions, as the size of potential recruits is increasing, we're just not reaching them as well as we could. Poor coalition-building, anemic political education efforts, attempts to be involved with organized labor without the humility of trying to learn about it are all characteristic of the typical core lefty org - on top of thinking that debates are a really great way to spend an org's time. All of those things can be reversed through education and organization.

We need to be organizing. As much as I like to point of 2020 for the libs dancing with cops and the subsequent co-optation, a serious conversation has to put that blame on us....on the people so certain of the necessity of Socialism. The American Worker will wake from their slumber once more and when they do, we need to be ready to greet them with a program that has potential to improve their lives and the ability to defend that program with the increased resources they will provide us.

I can't speak for you but there's WAY more bullshit happening nationally than is happening at any local level.

If you're feeling overwhelmed and want to feel productive focus small. Find someone within 1 mile of you that needs something, anything, and get it for them. You'll feel better.

No hope? It's organizing right now you're missing it. :meow-hug:

We live in the imperial core. Its power seems inescapable. So did the divine right of kings. Any human power can be resisted and changed by human beings.

Even if outright revolution is near impossible in the core, fighting imperialism from within through agitation can give space for other countries to build a revolution

When it all goes down (and it will), this weird country is going to need a structure in place to build something positive and meaningful, instead of just collapsing into warring states. That’s where we come in.

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