At least 10 times a day, Erika Becker, who works as a sales development manager at a technology company called Verkada, turns to her boss with questions. “Did I handle that correctly?” she asks. “What could I have done better?”
“It’s like if there’s something in my teeth, I want you to tell me,” she said. “Because I want to move up in my career.”
"I literally NEED to be micromanaged every second of my day or else I'll never become a useless parasitic middle manager!!!" :maybe-later-kiddo:
The economists [...] found that remote work enhanced the productivity of senior engineers, but it also reduced the amount of feedback that junior engineers received (in the form of comments on their code), and some of the junior engineers were more likely to quit the firm. The effects of remote work, in terms of declining feedback, were especially pronounced for female engineers.
"Damn, misogyny and elitism are a real problem in our workplace...and this is totally because our wage slaves aren't within the panopticon at all times! It's totally not structural or organizational or economic mode issues at all!" :liberalism:
“It’s what grandparents have been saying for a long time,” Ms. Emanuel, an economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, said in an interview this month. “Face-to-face meetings are very different from FaceTime.”
Just literal boomer shit in a supposedly "serious" article. New York Times, more like Poo Pork [Balls] Times
This reads like it was written by a robot
"It’s like if there’s something in my teeth, I want you to tell me,” she said. “Because I want to move up in my career."
Normal humans do not speak like this
Also "sorry sweaty, you're fantastic at your job and promoting you would benefit our company, but then I noticed you had a bit of lint on your jacket. You're fired."
Utterly deranged.
I would be genuinely surprised if NYT writers weren't already heavily cribbing from chatbots. And I'm excited for a future in which more and more of the publishing industry becomes this George Jetson push-button machine of content production that no sane person would voluntarily subject themselves.
Written by the 2 NYT people that always write anti-worker propaganda for the outlet. I can't stand them.
“Did I handle that correctly?” she asks. “What could I have done better?”
That is the mindset of an abuse victim.
Eh... coaching can really help someone learn, depending on the task and how the coaching is done. Could be weird, could be normal, who knows without more context?
Yeah, the context really is important. I think I'm just biased because my current workplace "trainer" (a 2nd-generation daughter of a proud German WW2-veteran immigrant) at my current job is a gaslighting bully.
I'm sure there are quite pleasant Germans out there. I mean no disrespect or bigotry. But this particular woman was literally raised by a nazi - and it shows.
In my experience your boss's list of reasons to silently resent you will grow at about the same rate regardless of how much feedback you try to elicit from them.
I'm doing a seasonal job right now so thank God this doesn't apply to me, but my whole strategy with my other jobs so far has been that mediocre is the true excellent.
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Do too poorly? I get fired.
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Do too well? I don't get promoted, I become the reliable one (I get a bunch of extra busywork as a reward for a job well done, and then expectations are raised for me even higher as if work is school.)
Capitalism quite literally punishes hard work.
Extracting excess labor value is easier when the labor voluntarily exerts themselves beyond the required needs
-Marx or someone, I don't know
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Is there anybody arguing there's no value to in person workplaces? Yeah, it's obviously more efficient for training or other activities that require extremely frequent communication/cooperation. But in most office jobs, that's not most work. You can get that done a few days in the office and the rest of your shit at home.
Yeah there is absolutely nothing wrong with like super-low frequency hybrid where you meet once or twice a month in order to literally humanize your coworkers and have a little wider collaboration than you would day to day, but yeah, that's not what these fucking losers are asking for
reduced the amount of feedback that junior engineers received (in the form of comments on their code), and some of the junior engineers were more likely to quit the firm
Yes they're totally quitting due to lack of microaggressions and not lack of pay or benifets or anything tangible that would improve their material conditions.
Someone brought something like this up and the head of my department was like "yeah but we could just set up specific teams meetings where we exchange tips on coding praftices." Like there's definitely a benefit to a more senior engineer accidentally peeking over your shoulder, but it's not insurmountable, and it's stuff that should have formal practices established anyway. Like hoping good coding practices emerge from a series of accidents isn't good management!
Like hoping good coding practices emerge from a series of accidents isn’t good management!
Yeah the smart businessperson response here is "I need to make sure new employees get training and feedback until they're up to speed." Maybe some in-person time is useful for that, maybe not, depends on the industry.
When I was a junior engineer, i was surrounded by junior engineers because all the senior engineers either left for better pay or became managers, so I never had any mentorship of any kind.
It's entirely organization based, with little to do if its in person or not. Especially for software engineers, all the tracking and work is on the screen. Sitting in a conference room with your code on display is more about humiliation than anything.
I actually hate working from home because I already spend too much time alone and I like hanging out with the other workers. My boss doesn't share offices with me though, if they were there to supervise me all the time I'd probably change my mind very quickly.
I'm an even 20hr/20hr split for home/office work, and there is a benefit to bouncing ideas off whoever is nearby, ESPECIALLY for new employees
“I literally NEED to be micromanaged every second of my day or else I’ll never become a useless parasitic middle manager!!!”
some are like this just because they aren't very smart or self driven at all. I feel like my gf(a manager) mentions how her subordinates need a lot more help than she ever did. Lot's of humans still need direction and guidance, we can't escape hierarchies completely. and some of us don't want to be decision makers. I have a chance to be a team lead at my job by im like meh.
I'm a working supervisor in my department and this drives me up a wall. It's totally fine and expected for new employees to have questions while they are learning, but after several months to a year you need to be confident enough to make your own decisions and take calculated risks. I make it very clear that I expect everyone to screw things up on a regular basis and that's much more preferable than me double checking every single thing they do. This isn't a hospital, no one dies from mistakes here, and I already have too much of my own work and my ADHD to worry about.
I think it just stems from people being traumatized by shitty managers in the past who rip them apart for every little mistake.
Edit: to be clear, these are not difficult decisions being made, more like our procedure is "if A, B, and C are true, then do D" and people are afraid to press the button for D without showing me their A, B, and C.
I think it just stems from people being traumatized by shitty managers in the past who rip them apart for every little mistake.
i do think that is part of it. I think the other part is there are alot of people who don't really know how to learn, or never figured out in what way they learn best. I know i suck at auditory learning but I'm great at reading and learning so I take a lot of notes when I'm at a new job. I think people just don't know how to take notes. Unfortunately i'm plagued with a history BA(english minor) and then I got an IT degree cause history wasnt getting me a job so I just have way too much experience in going to school.
Supervision? You mean the thing where my boss comes up to me and either (best case scenario) tells me to do what I'm already doing or (worst case scenario) tries to "help" me and ends up fucking things up and creating several hours of more work? Less of that, please.
If your job vanished tomorrow and the world wouldn’t blink then you can WFH
What’s all the fuss about if you want to go in, go in; if you don’t, don’t. Jesus why does everything need coverage, studies and all this other shit just let people be.
They're working backwards from the conclusion that people must go into the office, so they'll never stop writing op-eds until that happens. Personally, I'm waiting for the headline reading "Working From Home Makes Your Dick Fall Off".
I do believe that facetime is a bad way of having meetings. It has something of a road rage effect on a lot of people
Meetings are largely a waste of time anyway. Even better excuse not to have them at all.
a lot of them are but sometimes you do need to talk face to face
