“The purpose of Project AERODYNAMIC is to provide for the exploitation and expansion of the anti-Soviet Ukrainian resistance for cold war and hot war purposes,” the formerly top secret document dated July 13, 1953 says of the project.

“Such groups as the Ukrainian Supreme Council of Liberation (UHVR) and its Ukrainian Insurgent Army (OUN), the Foreign Representation of the Ukrainian Supreme Council of Liberation (ZPUHVR) in Western Europe and the United States, and other organizations such as the OUN/B will be utilized,” the document continued.

The CIA documents show that under the AERODYNAMIC program the CIA operated an affiliate project codenamed CAPACHO where the CIA setting up a propaganda company in Manhattan that “catered to printing and publishing anti-Soviet ZPUHVR literature that would be smuggled into Ukraine.”

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/US-Tried-to-Impose-Nazi-Leader-on-Ukraine-in-WWII-CIA-Leak--20160523-0003.html

Fun fact the telesur page is from 2016, not 2023

Also fun fact this was dated 5 months after the death of :stalin-pipe: .

  • CommunistBear [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Every day I think my opinion of this country cannot get any lower and every day I am surprised to find that yes, it somehow can. Death to America doesn't even begin to describe it

  • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    "ACKSHUALLY, this is just for Anti Communist purposes, it says nothing about being pro fascist"

    -Some dweeb that also goes on to make a post titled "We need to crack down on the Nazis here on r/enough_commie_spam" which gets 350 comments and 20 upvotes

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    :mission-accomplished-1::mission-accomplished-2:

  • culpritus [any]
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    1 year ago

    CAPACHO

    I believe this project funded the publishing houses that popularized the Holodomor nazi propaganda to most of the anglosphere. They were specifically trying to make the famine into a worse genocide than the Holocaust for pretty explicitly anti-communist purposes. There's an article from the late 80s in the Village Voice (iirc) that details a lot of that.

    found it, orig published date of January 12, 1988: https://www.villagevoice.com/2020/11/21/in-search-of-a-soviet-holocaust/

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    no no no they're not nazis, it's just that the swastika is a symbol of anti-soviet resistance, yes I know the soviet union dissolved and these guys are also throwing up the black sun but you have to believe me they're not nazis.

  • NotErisma
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      • wild_dog [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        the Obama-Trump-Biden concentration camps the libs are ignoring right now back you up.

          • wild_dog [they/them]
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            1 year ago

            i mean they did ignore them because they elected a guy who clearly didn't give a fuck about them which is kind of worse since it's more annoying than if they stayed quiet.

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    • sexywheat [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      I got accused of spreading "Russian disinformation" by posting a fucking Grayzone article.

      I hate liberals so ,so much

      Edit: To clarify, on :reddit-logo: of course

  • SaniFlush [any, any]
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    1 year ago

    What are we supposed to do with this information other than put another entry in the Book of Grudges, to be recalled at some future date when justice is achieved? Who outside our bubble would even listen to this?

    This isn't me saying it's hopeless, this is me genuinely asking how. From within the box of empire I cannot see outside by myself.

    • vivamatapacos [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Attempts to pull this info out of the Book of Grudges in an argument with a liberal Them: "You can't be critical of the CIA for disseminating propaganda and disinformation while also using them as a source for your argument. Checkmate, tankie."

      • darkcalling [comrade/them,she/her]
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        1 year ago

        Me: Oh really? Well you can't convict someone of a crime and be upset about them committing that crime (and seek punishment for it) if they admitted to it openly and that's why you're charging them with it in a court of law. Oh wait you can. It strengthens your case when the accused literally confesses to the crime that other evidence also points to them committing.

      • ChapoChatGPT [any]
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        1 year ago

        for as hopeless as it is, most libs' interaction with the conflict is largely ineffectual. it's fully confined within the spectacle, effectively sports for them.

        since it's impossible to get them to think three layers deep, probably best to just sidestep it like most culture war / politicized topics and engage with their direct material experiences. That's where I've had the most success at least.

        • emizeko [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          engage with their direct material experiences

          yea like that homeless guy did to the SF fire commisioner with a pipe

      • wopazoo [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        People's political opinions are derived from their material conditions, not from ideas

  • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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    1 year ago

    that article would be cool if it had links to sources, cause i can't find anything else on this from websites that don't look fake as hell.

      • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        hell yea thank you. also my Firefox couldnt display that page but Chrome does, so that was odd. edit: i disabled "Query OCSP responder servers to confirm the current validity of certificates" in FireFox and it worked, just in case anyone else has issues.

  • windowlicker [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    excited to hear libs explain to me how the nazis were actually good and the CIA is good and slava ukraini you putler supporter

  • determinism2 [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    For it is only after the fence comes down

    That the cartoon bubble explodes

    And the new party begins

    Invitation only - still in a senator's suitcase

    Let them out and dance for the ant god

    Like scary magnets to pounce upon command

    Upon the plan

    The plan called AERODYNAMIC

  • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    How the hell does 4chan even delude themselves into thinking they are the rebels fighting against the deep state? Yet they kowtow to their WASP masters and seem to be aware of their pro-US agenda?

    • ComRed2 [any]
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      1 year ago

      On whose side is 4chan even on? I see different sentiments.