I'll start with one that doesn't seem directly related but correlates so closely that I can't help seeing the "tell" as a warning: putting "kappa" in a sentence like a punctuation mark. I've never seen an online conversation that started with that tell and didn't wander into final solutions and 14 words if it went on long enough. I know it's a :freeze-gamer: thing but it's not like there isn't already a wide overlap between :freeze-gamer: and :frothingfash: .

  • innocentlurker [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Any whiff of sadism, even ironically or with forced humor. Mentioned to my 80 yr old neighbor about the flooding in CA a while ago and he said "Hopefully it will take out some immagants ha ha"

      • innocentlurker [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Admittedly the immagants part was, but I've met people that just like to see others suffer. They get a gleeful look on their face that's quite unmistakable.

        (CW:Child abuse)

        I once saw my ex father in law sit on my 10 year old step son with his knees on the kids shoulders and taunt him until the kid was screaming and he and his wife would just laugh and laugh while my ex just sat stoically. And naturally he was a chud/libertarian out in the boonies. He had a look on his face that is the same I see on anyone that likes that kind of thing. I see it on conservative politicians and religious and business people's faces every day.

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          Yeah, it's horrible. Same people will turn around and go "what about the Tsar?" 5 min later like that isn't a topic of anguished debate on the left about the necessity of violence.

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Don't the more fedposty aspects of this site where people talk about wanting people they don't like to die horribly count as sadism

      • innocentlurker [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Maybe, but it's about the suffering and violence included that raises the flag. I'm perfectly content for all billionaires to pass away peacefully in their sleep tonight.

      • Outdoor_Catgirl [she/her, they/them]
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        1 year ago

        The difference is that ron desantis could start passing trans rights laws and I would not longer wish for him to be blown up by an ied. Removal of threatening people is expedient way of removing threat. Quicker than getting people to change minds. You can't become un-gay or un-black or whatever group chuds hate. It's means to an end vs an end in itself

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        If you're seriously equating a trans guillotine meme with some chud gloating about dead brown people, you got some privilege to check.

      • OrionsMask [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        No, I don't think they do count. It's a reaction and a way to cope with all the fucking horror that happens in the world that will never see any justice. The only thing you can possibly do to cope is to wish that justice served a thousand fold... but ultimately, you know it's never going to happen. I would exchange all violent fantasy, past and future, for those awful things to never have happened, but I can't do that either.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Any whiff of sadism, even ironically or with forced humor.

      "That's just how I cope with the dark side of life!" :grillman:

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Any whiff of sadism, even ironically or with forced humor.

      I fucking hate Justin Roiland.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
        hexagon
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        1 year ago

        If someone's kink is knowing that someone somewhere else is suffering horribly because of chud brutality, I think I'd make an exception to the "no kink shaming" rule.

        • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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          1 year ago

          Nah, I'm just making a joke about how linguistic drift has fucked over kinksters, not at all trying to forgive or excuse fash violence. In fact, that's also another side of the same coin in this problem.

          The word sadism originally refers to a specific kink of inflicting pain, humiliation, or embarassment on a willing and enjoying partner, but it has been repurposed as a means to describe violently antisocial behaviour.

          This linguistic muddling is deliberate, as it casts people who are into sadomasochism as being cruel and abusive to those around them, while also providing cover to those who fantasize about and perform antisocial acts.