Note on the German Greens: The factional infighting between the Fundis and Realos was already skewed pretty heavily towards the realos in the 90s, especially as most of the remaining marxists, anarchists and other leftists had left by 1990. Some of them joined the tiny splitter group ÖkoLinx of Jutta Ditfurt (it's antideutsch and basically only relevant in Frankfurt am Main).
Though many of these leftists had odd ideas and were indeed more concerned with societal rights (and in an internationalist manner - believing in exporting the revolution - even if they saw the revolutionary ideology to be social liberalism nowadays instead of a form of revolutionary Marxism) and didn't care much for economics and were interventionist to the core. Not supporting the Yugoslav War German military operation (because first combat use of the German military since WW2) but for example were staunch supporters of the Iraq or Afghanistan wars. Some of them became fascists in the early 2010s and even as the Antideutsche are slowly fading away, the mid 90s to early 2010s were an odd time indeed for the German far-left.
Evidence of this is everywhere. In February, Nato held its first ever gaming event. A young employee of the alliance joined popular Twitch streamer ZeRoyalViking to play Among Us and casually chat about the danger disinformation poses to democracy.
The neoliberal world order would be hilarious if it wasn't so depressing to live in it.
The article itself is a decent overview of PR strategies that worked to move some people to pro-NATO positions. It's certainly is a factor. You join a party in 1995 and you have different assumptions on the world than a comrade that joins in 2015. There's more, or perhaps simply different stuff to unlearn/overcome in order to have a leftist worldview.
BUT it focuses on the "Progressive Left", a.k.a. the radlibs, the "democratic socialists" and the like. Marxist parties and organizations had vastly different debates and only the biggest cranks/revisionists adopt an outright pro-NATO position.
Evidence of this is everywhere. In February, Nato held its first ever gaming event. A young employee of the alliance joined popular Twitch streamer ZeRoyalViking to play Among Us and casually chat about the danger disinformation poses to democracy.
Remember kids, if you suspect that an adult is acting sus, they may be a russian imposter spreading disinformation so make sure to call an emergency meeting to report them to your local authorities.
Fundis - "Fundamentalists", a.k.a. the left wing of the Green Party. Used to consist of people from liberals that are not willing to enter coalitions with centre-right parties like the Christian Democratic Union or the Free Democratic Party, to Marxists, Anarchists and other people from the activist left of the 1980s. Nowadays, they're clearly on the defensive and all that remains of them are left liberals and socdems.
Realos - "Realists", the right wing of the Green Party. 🌐types. Clearly in control of the party for the last twenty years. The most pro-war faction in German politics.
ÖkoLink - "Ecological Left", an openly anticapitalist splinter group of the Green Party founded by Jutta Ditfurt in 1991 following dissatisfaction with developments inside of the Green Party. It's very small and its only success was consistently winning a seat in the Frankfurt City Council.
Jutta Ditfurt - Of aristocratic origin (TIL), she was one of the important people within the socialist wing of the Green Party before 1990 alongside Thomas Ebermann and Rainer Trampert. All three got purged from the party/quit and have nothing more than a small following among Antidetusche.
Antideutsche - Political current in the German far-left and it is quite an odd one. Formed from a split in the KB "Kommunistischer Bund" (small communist party from the 70s) in the late 80s as a reaction to what they saw as negative trends within the left, they got prominence in the early 90s. The annexation of the GDR caused a panic reaction in the west German left that the FRG was about to start doing imperialism and militarism again because of the special character of the German state post-1933. They gained prominence at the "Never Again Germany" protest in Frankfurt 1990 and was the strongest current in the radical left until about 2015-ish. Their main topics are criticism of antisemitism (to the point of praising Israel), anti-nationalism (and a fixation on praising the allied defeat of Nazi Germany and cheering on globalization and the homogenization of German culture), anti-fascism (most antifa groups are dominated by them), feminism (usually second wave, including TERFism), anti-religion and pro-"enlightenment", as well as a focus on Frankfurt School thinkers like Adorno or Herbert Marcuse.
Basically what the fascist conspiracy theory of cultural Marxism claims most leftists are. Antidetusche are divided between LADs and RADs (pronounced in english, because they're nerds) - LADs hold onto leftist ideology, anticapitalism, etc. while RADs are r/neoliberals.
Some of them became fascists in the early 2010s - Due to the heavily anti-religious fragment of their ideology, the Syrian refugee crisis and the "barbarism" of Islamic religion (yes they really call Muslims barbarians) they brought to Germany, as well as the right wing of antideutsche being already pretty lib, many found themselves quite comfortable in the emerging neofascist movement.
Note on the German Greens: The factional infighting between the Fundis and Realos was already skewed pretty heavily towards the realos in the 90s, especially as most of the remaining marxists, anarchists and other leftists had left by 1990. Some of them joined the tiny splitter group ÖkoLinx of Jutta Ditfurt (it's antideutsch and basically only relevant in Frankfurt am Main).
Though many of these leftists had odd ideas and were indeed more concerned with societal rights (and in an internationalist manner - believing in exporting the revolution - even if they saw the revolutionary ideology to be social liberalism nowadays instead of a form of revolutionary Marxism) and didn't care much for economics and were interventionist to the core. Not supporting the Yugoslav War German military operation (because first combat use of the German military since WW2) but for example were staunch supporters of the Iraq or Afghanistan wars. Some of them became fascists in the early 2010s and even as the Antideutsche are slowly fading away, the mid 90s to early 2010s were an odd time indeed for the German far-left.
The neoliberal world order would be hilarious if it wasn't so depressing to live in it.
The article itself is a decent overview of PR strategies that worked to move some people to pro-NATO positions. It's certainly is a factor. You join a party in 1995 and you have different assumptions on the world than a comrade that joins in 2015. There's more, or perhaps simply different stuff to unlearn/overcome in order to have a leftist worldview.
BUT it focuses on the "Progressive Left", a.k.a. the radlibs, the "democratic socialists" and the like. Marxist parties and organizations had vastly different debates and only the biggest cranks/revisionists adopt an outright pro-NATO position.
Remember kids, if you suspect that an adult is acting sus, they may be a russian imposter spreading disinformation so make sure to call an emergency meeting to report them to your local authorities.
born too late to care about 9/11 born to early to be radicalised by NATO among us
The first paragraph has so many words I don't know
oh lol. Don't hesitate to ask, I can explain.
Fundis
Realos
ÖkoLinx
Jutta Ditfurt
antideutsch
Some of them became fascists in the early 2010s
Fundis - "Fundamentalists", a.k.a. the left wing of the Green Party. Used to consist of people from liberals that are not willing to enter coalitions with centre-right parties like the Christian Democratic Union or the Free Democratic Party, to Marxists, Anarchists and other people from the activist left of the 1980s. Nowadays, they're clearly on the defensive and all that remains of them are left liberals and socdems.
Realos - "Realists", the right wing of the Green Party. 🌐types. Clearly in control of the party for the last twenty years. The most pro-war faction in German politics.
ÖkoLink - "Ecological Left", an openly anticapitalist splinter group of the Green Party founded by Jutta Ditfurt in 1991 following dissatisfaction with developments inside of the Green Party. It's very small and its only success was consistently winning a seat in the Frankfurt City Council.
Jutta Ditfurt - Of aristocratic origin (TIL), she was one of the important people within the socialist wing of the Green Party before 1990 alongside Thomas Ebermann and Rainer Trampert. All three got purged from the party/quit and have nothing more than a small following among Antidetusche.
Antideutsche - Political current in the German far-left and it is quite an odd one. Formed from a split in the KB "Kommunistischer Bund" (small communist party from the 70s) in the late 80s as a reaction to what they saw as negative trends within the left, they got prominence in the early 90s. The annexation of the GDR caused a panic reaction in the west German left that the FRG was about to start doing imperialism and militarism again because of the special character of the German state post-1933. They gained prominence at the "Never Again Germany" protest in Frankfurt 1990 and was the strongest current in the radical left until about 2015-ish. Their main topics are criticism of antisemitism (to the point of praising Israel), anti-nationalism (and a fixation on praising the allied defeat of Nazi Germany and cheering on globalization and the homogenization of German culture), anti-fascism (most antifa groups are dominated by them), feminism (usually second wave, including TERFism), anti-religion and pro-"enlightenment", as well as a focus on Frankfurt School thinkers like Adorno or Herbert Marcuse.
Basically what the fascist conspiracy theory of cultural Marxism claims most leftists are. Antidetusche are divided between LADs and RADs (pronounced in english, because they're nerds) - LADs hold onto leftist ideology, anticapitalism, etc. while RADs are r/neoliberals.
Some of them became fascists in the early 2010s - Due to the heavily anti-religious fragment of their ideology, the Syrian refugee crisis and the "barbarism" of Islamic religion (yes they really call Muslims barbarians) they brought to Germany, as well as the right wing of antideutsche being already pretty lib, many found themselves quite comfortable in the emerging neofascist movement.
And I thought our politics was exhausting to keep up with
Bobson Dugnutt ass name
When I hear that party I can only ever think of how they shut down nuclear plants. What a pathetic excuse for a "left" party.
By definition you cannot be pro-environment and anti-nuclear
But nuclear weapons and nuclear power have the same word in them. Both should be vigorously opposed.