i like how this started from iirc me saying "I like the intersection of real world physics with magic bullshit" and you saying it doesn't even do that well, you could have talked about better anime that do that instead
calling me racist for talking about racial caricatures
the negation of disparate peoples into one that you are weirdly identifying with "green cave dwelling primitive rapists" while insisting that depiction is JUST as racist as harry potter goblins is kinda racist imo, especially the latter bit because harry potter goblins are literally a 1:1 recreation of racist tropes no stretch needed and saying goblin slayer is "just as bad" imo diminishes that anti semitism
the negation of disparate peoples into one that you are weirdly identifying with “green cave dwelling primitive rapists” while insisting that depiction is JUST as racist as harry potter goblins is kinda racist imo, especially the latter bit because harry potter goblins are literally a 1:1 recreation of racist tropes no stretch needed and saying goblin slayer is “just as bad” imo diminishes that anti semitism
First of all, fuck off. Secondly, you are unsurprisingly wildly ignorant about what a racial caricature is if you think this is a tenable line of logic. Racial caricatures are things constructed by racists, not properties of the groups they purport to represent. The three groups I mentioned were all victims of British colonization, portrayed by those British settlers in this way (and, importantly, this was all transmitted back to Britain itself, see e.g. the racism of Darwin), and have very similar stereotypes that survive into the modern day because of that very legacy. Dividing the world into "us," "maybe some other Euros," and "the savages" was a huge part of Britain's characterization of the world!
You would struggle to make the GS Goblins more on the nose in terms of their behavior than what we see already. Basically the only way it could be done is by having goblin slaves so you could demonstrate them being lazy in chains and unable to cope with freedom.
I looked it up because I forgot if I was conflating it with the Trolls from Berserk and, in GS, it turns out:
Goblins are an all-male species, but possess the ability to breed with any race with the pregnancy always resulting in goblin children.
We've even got some fucking miscegenation shit with the corrupting influence of savage blood overriding the heredity of the fairer race!
Wild how this species exists just to rape and murder (and, lacking any females and any ability to relate to other species, can only reproduce by rape) so that the more technologically advanced, light-skinned, Euro-coded humans can be completely justified in eradicating them. Couldn't we have, like, just the murder and not the eroticized rape? Nope! Maybe more representation on the human side to -- no, nope, I'm being told that the curtains are blue.
not even in the wildest racism have I ever seen the peoples of 3 different continents uniformly portrayed as "green skinned goblins living in caves who rape people" but ok chief
I looked it up because I forgot if I was conflating it with the Trolls from Berserk and, in GS, it turns out:
yeah it's the same in berserk, which is honestly even worse much more frequently but strangely tolerated by the ol hexbear anime experts (tm) huh
Wild how this species exists just to rape and murder (and, lacking any females and any ability to relate to other species, can only reproduce by rape) so that the more technologically advanced, light-skinned, Euro-coded humans can be completely justified in eradicating them.
wild how goblin slayer is a series about slaying goblins and uses some kind of conceit to make it okay
y'all act like they're drawn like the fucking cockroaches in terraformars like your reaction is wild
yeah it’s the same in berserk, which is honestly even worse much more frequently but strangely tolerated by the ol hexbear anime experts ™ huh
Oh no, it must be so hard when people are intolerant of uwu smol bean anime fans like you because they want to offer criticism of an anime. I'd offer you a hug if you were here, maybe some warm milk and a blanket. I can't imagine what it must be like to be the most downtrodden minority, the anime fan, when those uppity ethnic people tell you such violent, hateful things like "Hey, this anime's monsters are similar to how my people have been depicted and I don't think that should be taken so lightly".
I welcome you to criticize Berserk, have at it! That's not my fucking point (or CriticalOtaku's) because I'm not telling you what to like or not like (nor were they). You're the one obsessed with moralizing, I just think we should call a spade a spade instead of pretending it's something else, while you sit here fucking gaslighting people so that you don't feel like anyone gives you funny looks for liking your eroticized rape with fake physics.
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot that you can't read more than three sentences at a time unless it's explaining why the repeated use of rape in a story is actually progressive and necessary.
i like how this started from iirc me saying “I like the intersection of real world physics with magic bullshit” and you saying it doesn’t even do that well, you could have talked about better anime that do that instead
I like how that bit about physics leads you to spend hours screaming that the curtains are blue and calling people who disagree with you racist. Sorry, that's not true, I don't like that.
I've been told .hack does that stuff well. Ironically, Dr. Stone sometimes also does. Hunter x Hunter has its moments.
Baki (and martial arts manga in general) do what I would argue is a more self-aware version of this by taking a "story" about how something in physics works and then having someone "master" using the interaction in order to weaponize it. Most times when physics is used in an action manga, especially ones with flimsy writing like Goblin Slayer, are based on using a very selective understanding of whatever the "physics" is that it evokes to look clever when it may as well just be making something up.
You poor thing, maybe if you just dropped the subject instead of arguing in obvious bad faith for hours this could have been avoided! No, it must be the fault of those nerds
i like how this started from iirc me saying "I like the intersection of real world physics with magic bullshit" and you saying it doesn't even do that well, you could have talked about better anime that do that instead
the negation of disparate peoples into one that you are weirdly identifying with "green cave dwelling primitive rapists" while insisting that depiction is JUST as racist as harry potter goblins is kinda racist imo, especially the latter bit because harry potter goblins are literally a 1:1 recreation of racist tropes no stretch needed and saying goblin slayer is "just as bad" imo diminishes that anti semitism
First of all, fuck off. Secondly, you are unsurprisingly wildly ignorant about what a racial caricature is if you think this is a tenable line of logic. Racial caricatures are things constructed by racists, not properties of the groups they purport to represent. The three groups I mentioned were all victims of British colonization, portrayed by those British settlers in this way (and, importantly, this was all transmitted back to Britain itself, see e.g. the racism of Darwin), and have very similar stereotypes that survive into the modern day because of that very legacy. Dividing the world into "us," "maybe some other Euros," and "the savages" was a huge part of Britain's characterization of the world!
You would struggle to make the GS Goblins more on the nose in terms of their behavior than what we see already. Basically the only way it could be done is by having goblin slaves so you could demonstrate them being lazy in chains and unable to cope with freedom.
I looked it up because I forgot if I was conflating it with the Trolls from Berserk and, in GS, it turns out:
We've even got some fucking miscegenation shit with the corrupting influence of savage blood overriding the heredity of the fairer race!
Wild how this species exists just to rape and murder (and, lacking any females and any ability to relate to other species, can only reproduce by rape) so that the more technologically advanced, light-skinned, Euro-coded humans can be completely justified in eradicating them. Couldn't we have, like, just the murder and not the eroticized rape? Nope! Maybe more representation on the human side to -- no, nope, I'm being told that the curtains are blue.
you first
not even in the wildest racism have I ever seen the peoples of 3 different continents uniformly portrayed as "green skinned goblins living in caves who rape people" but ok chief
yeah it's the same in berserk, which is honestly even worse much more frequently but strangely tolerated by the ol hexbear anime experts (tm) huh
wild how goblin slayer is a series about slaying goblins and uses some kind of conceit to make it okay
y'all act like they're drawn like the fucking cockroaches in terraformars like your reaction is wild
Oh no, it must be so hard when people are intolerant of uwu smol bean anime fans like you because they want to offer criticism of an anime. I'd offer you a hug if you were here, maybe some warm milk and a blanket. I can't imagine what it must be like to be the most downtrodden minority, the anime fan, when those uppity ethnic people tell you such violent, hateful things like "Hey, this anime's monsters are similar to how my people have been depicted and I don't think that should be taken so lightly".
I welcome you to criticize Berserk, have at it! That's not my fucking point (or CriticalOtaku's) because I'm not telling you what to like or not like (nor were they). You're the one obsessed with moralizing, I just think we should call a spade a spade instead of pretending it's something else, while you sit here fucking gaslighting people so that you don't feel like anyone gives you funny looks for liking your eroticized rape with fake physics.
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Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot that you can't read more than three sentences at a time unless it's explaining why the repeated use of rape in a story is actually progressive and necessary.
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I like how that bit about physics leads you to spend hours screaming that the curtains are blue and calling people who disagree with you racist. Sorry, that's not true, I don't like that.
I've been told .hack does that stuff well. Ironically, Dr. Stone sometimes also does. Hunter x Hunter has its moments.
Baki (and martial arts manga in general) do what I would argue is a more self-aware version of this by taking a "story" about how something in physics works and then having someone "master" using the interaction in order to weaponize it. Most times when physics is used in an action manga, especially ones with flimsy writing like Goblin Slayer, are based on using a very selective understanding of whatever the "physics" is that it evokes to look clever when it may as well just be making something up.
weird obsession with curtains ngl
Wow, so I do talk about the subject you request and you ignore it. Who could have guessed you were just concern trolling :blob-no-thoughts:
I said you could have talked about it like hours ago when I would have given a shit instead of after I felt annoyed by this all day
You poor thing, maybe if you just dropped the subject instead of arguing in obvious bad faith for hours this could have been avoided! No, it must be the fault of those nerds
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You're just going to keep caping for softporn rape the next time too, aren't you?
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If it's so hard, you could keep your fucking mouth shut next time instead of stringing people along for hours with bullshit you don't mean
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I'm not the one who spent like an hour calling people racist because they objected to rape porn, maybe forward your complaints to that fellow
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