I agree. I like some anime that have bad things, I just don't kid myself about the bad things. Hell, I have been meaning to get into Berserk for a long time knowing full well about the bad parts (because Griffith seems interesting and the art is incredible), I've just bounced off it because the series started when the author, Miura, was very young and so it was a bit grimdark in just the way you understandably dislike (and I find boring). I hear it gets better later on and Miura even does a lengthy prequel arc to make the grimdark part a bit more compelling because it establishes characters and motivations leading in to it.
Dune is full of gender essentialist bullshit and its main plot thread is directly based on Great Man Theory (even if ostensibly as a cautionary tale instead of praising it but good luck getting that across to Paul/Leto II stans) and there's a lot of deeply baked in misogyny and orientalism (which gets worse under Frank's son, who I refuse to read from), but it's still my favorite literature of all time.
If I wanted to be a toxic fan like the few featured in this thread I would make lots of Thermian Argument excuses for how actually in the fiction feeemales are hardwired for specific roles and have specific limitations and so on and I'd do a lot of concern trolling, insults, and childish eyerolling emojis because that'd protect me from feeling bad about what I consume. :frothingfash:
I agree. I like some anime that have bad things, I just don't kid myself about the bad things. Hell, I have been meaning to get into Berserk for a long time knowing full well about the bad parts (because Griffith seems interesting and the art is incredible), I've just bounced off it because the series started when the author, Miura, was very young and so it was a bit grimdark in just the way you understandably dislike (and I find boring). I hear it gets better later on and Miura even does a lengthy prequel arc to make the grimdark part a bit more compelling because it establishes characters and motivations leading in to it.
Dune is full of gender essentialist bullshit and its main plot thread is directly based on Great Man Theory (even if ostensibly as a cautionary tale instead of praising it but good luck getting that across to Paul/Leto II stans) and there's a lot of deeply baked in misogyny and orientalism (which gets worse under Frank's son, who I refuse to read from), but it's still my favorite literature of all time.
If I wanted to be a toxic fan like the few featured in this thread I would make lots of Thermian Argument excuses for how actually in the fiction feeemales are hardwired for specific roles and have specific limitations and so on and I'd do a lot of concern trolling, insults, and childish eyerolling emojis because that'd protect me from feeling bad about what I consume. :frothingfash: