Is the US fascist? Are all bourgeois states fascistic? If not then why are some fascist and others not? Is post-Stalin USSR fascist? Was FDR fascist? Is Putin fascist?

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Fascism, in general, seeks to create the recipe for success of the U.S. faster and with more outright brutality (which is difficult to imagine, but true) which is, cheap land, labor and every citizen a lord (btw citizen is limited to those who we consider citizens), in order to combat the falling rate of profit found in capitalism.

    The U.S. is not 'fascist' though it is the number one supporter of international fascism, which it uses to maintain its financial empire. Most bourgeoisie states are not fascist as most simply seek financial domination for capital and do not give a shit about if a citizen is a lord, and would rather have everyone toiling for capital itself.

    Post-Stalin USSR was not fascist. FDR was a liberal leaning social democrat. Putin, though absolutely a conservative revanchist and oligarchic pos, is not a fascist.

    • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I just don't understand how you can square "Fascism is Europe trying to match the US" and "The US isn't Fascist." If being more brutal than the US is a requirement, then literally only the Third Reich has ever been Fascist, and by that metric, not even Italy was Fascist.

      • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        The 'invalidation of former citizenry' is a large aspect of that 'more brutal' part of the equation. I suppose one could argue that the creation of the largest class of felonious non-voters per capita does satisfy that particular niche. Hmm. I guess it is pretty fascist then. I just haven't seen the general revolution, reorganization and mass privitization that usually precedes a fascist society. Like, if the Jan 6 thing had worked, and they then proceeded to sell all government land to local corporate entities, that would be a huge 'oh that is textbook fascism'.

        Edit: I might be thinking too recent. Perhaps the American revolution itself was a fascist revolution.

        The Italian fascists were absolutely as brutal to minorities, gays, and communists within their borders, as well as towards the Greeks. The only thing preventing them from being 'more brutal' at scale was the lack of a true expansionist industrial economy.