Bill Gates could have been good like Stallman but instead he chose to be a bourgeois tool. Many such cases. A lot of physicists are bourgeois tools. Most engineers too. Mathematicians are the coolest STEMlords and this is reflected in the gender makeup of classes.
The best lecturer I had in undergrad was an Egyptian-French mathematician. He lent me his notes when I crashed my bike and turned up late. The worst was an American engineer. He sent me a long-winded email like a nerd (my fault but still. Fucking lib).
I dropped out of college before I finished my math degree, but this is all completely true. The interesting thing about math people and their technology is their way more likely to run Linux, use foss, and hate M$ than even the so-called computer scientists. In my first ever college math class they taught me Latex, which was required for all future assignments, and which the prof taught use by recording videos of his Emacs + Gentoo setup.
CS people are often cool in my experience. The only uni exam I ever got 100 in was a CS exam. But to be fair it was an easy one. Good lecturer. Didn't get 100 for the subject because I didn't like doing assignments.
The thing about cs people is the professors and lecturers are the cool ones, because they're the onrs who didn't immediately leave after their bachelors to chase VC tech money.
:thinkin-lenin: This guy is who I'd picture as this type of dude, so I think you're onto something. Mathematician and computer scientist, the look of a graybeard, etc
Counter anecdote, in the math department of the school I went to the head of the department and their spouse where two weird religious types (not that religion is bad or anything in itself, of course). The applied math person in the department and the statistician were chill though and I generally agree that engineers are often chuddy. I feel like biology types are usually cool but then again the first conservationist were eugenicist and racist.
Bill Gates could have been good like Stallman but instead he chose to be a bourgeois tool. Many such cases. A lot of physicists are bourgeois tools. Most engineers too. Mathematicians are the coolest STEMlords and this is reflected in the gender makeup of classes.
The best lecturer I had in undergrad was an Egyptian-French mathematician. He lent me his notes when I crashed my bike and turned up late. The worst was an American engineer. He sent me a long-winded email like a nerd (my fault but still. Fucking lib).
I dropped out of college before I finished my math degree, but this is all completely true. The interesting thing about math people and their technology is their way more likely to run Linux, use foss, and hate M$ than even the so-called computer scientists. In my first ever college math class they taught me Latex, which was required for all future assignments, and which the prof taught use by recording videos of his Emacs + Gentoo setup.
CS people are often cool in my experience. The only uni exam I ever got 100 in was a CS exam. But to be fair it was an easy one. Good lecturer. Didn't get 100 for the subject because I didn't like doing assignments.
The thing about cs people is the professors and lecturers are the cool ones, because they're the onrs who didn't immediately leave after their bachelors to chase VC tech money.
Ah. That makes sense now. The ability to resist temptation.
Scott Aaronson is the least bad SneerClub target imho. He needs a good Marxist psychologist. Most guys do, especially liberal psychiatrists.
:thinkin-lenin: This guy is who I'd picture as this type of dude, so I think you're onto something. Mathematician and computer scientist, the look of a graybeard, etc
Counter anecdote, in the math department of the school I went to the head of the department and their spouse where two weird religious types (not that religion is bad or anything in itself, of course). The applied math person in the department and the statistician were chill though and I generally agree that engineers are often chuddy. I feel like biology types are usually cool but then again the first conservationist were eugenicist and racist.
My exact experience. Math majors/professors were the coolest while engineering majors/professors were by far the worst, pure distilled STEMness.